i assume you no one here in alabama (except us techies) knows what 4ktv is.  i 
honestly don't even...

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ryan Ghering via Af 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming4Know.


  It's especially worrisome with Newegg and Tiger selling cheap off brand 4K's 
under 500 bucks. And Roku is starting a big sale this week.
  I've already had calls this morning if customers current bandwidth will 
stream 4k. NOPE sorry.. Then I tell them what package we do offer that will 
support it and they freek out. Like I'm gona give bandwidth away for free. GEEZ


  On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is going to make for an ugly christmas season.
    If we had customer service who was firm it wouldnt be an issue "we dont 
offer that speed currently"
    but instead, the customers on 900 will be the ones who get the tv, and the 
subscription and call in, and CS will keep saying, well isnt there anything we 
can do for this guy in the middle of the forrest with the 300 foot cable run? 
and Ill have to go home and punch one of my children, probably the boy, Im kind 
of afraid of the girl.




    On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

      A quick Google search comes up with Audials and Playlater.  It does not 
appear to be rocket science.

      From: Jason McKemie via Af 
      Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:18 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 
4Know.

      I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, 
they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.

      On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would 
figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for 
free.

        It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.

        Travis


        On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

          That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick 
in a 32GB memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.


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On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:

            It's really too bad that the devices that support all these 
streaming services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their 
licensing deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any 
quality), they would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.

            Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage 
space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... 
so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. 
Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U 
device that could handle 60 seconds of video.

            Travis


            On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:

              That’s pretty cool.



              You can do 4k direct from Youtube.



              Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.



              But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for 
a while, then burst back to 90Mbps.



              I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it 
works on the built in TV’s.







              From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry 
Richardson via Af
              Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon 
streaming 4K now.



              Lovely



              From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering 
via Af
              Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon 
streaming 4K now.



              http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/




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              Ryan Ghering
              Network Operations - Plains.Net
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