I think we've established that you do make popcorn in the bathroom... or at 
least Ken does.

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From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.


But you don't make popcorn in the bathroom...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 11, 2014 9:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chuck probably has one of those 96 inch 8K televisions.  I saw a report on the 
LG 8K TV at some show saying it was still old technology because it was LCD not 
OLED.

The real story will probably be that if 4K TVs are now affordable, 1080p TVs 
are probably VERY affordable.  Hence the people putting them in every room of 
the house, streaming Netflix.  Even the bathroom.  So you can watch while 
making popcorn.


From: Chuck McCown via Af<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.

You boys are probably still slapping the side of the TV to get the picture to 
straighten up, right?

From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.


i assume you no one here in alabama (except us techies) knows what 4ktv is.  i 
honestly don't even...

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From: Ryan Ghering via Af<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming4Know.

It's especially worrisome with Newegg and Tiger selling cheap off brand 4K's 
under 500 bucks. And Roku is starting a big sale this week.
I've already had calls this morning if customers current bandwidth will stream 
4k. NOPE sorry.. Then I tell them what package we do offer that will support it 
and they freek out. Like I'm gona give bandwidth away for free. GEEZ

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, That One Guy via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is going to make for an ugly christmas season.
If we had customer service who was firm it wouldnt be an issue "we dont offer 
that speed currently"
but instead, the customers on 900 will be the ones who get the tv, and the 
subscription and call in, and CS will keep saying, well isnt there anything we 
can do for this guy in the middle of the forrest with the 300 foot cable run? 
and Ill have to go home and punch one of my children, probably the boy, Im kind 
of afraid of the girl.


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A quick Google search comes up with Audials and Playlater.  It does not appear 
to be rocket science.

From: Jason McKemie via Af<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:18 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4Know.

I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, they 
could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure 
out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free.

It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.

Travis

On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick in a 32GB 
memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.


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On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services 
can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if 
they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would have much 
fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.

Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space. At 
current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so places 
like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems like it 
would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could 
handle 60 seconds of video.

Travis

On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.

You can do 4k direct from Youtube.

Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.

But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while, then 
burst back to 90Mbps.

I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the built 
in TV’s.



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

Lovely

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/

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