Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the dogbone design. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller AF5--even if it had less throughput/distance.

Keefe

On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
via license?  *ducking*

It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of design and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller, cheaper processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power supply? I'm no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would not change the price.

Something that only does 10 MHz wide?

I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they can go with the existing hardware and still make money.



On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license system because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I think Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for (business) customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to Full? Two things to keep track of, not several.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2 with 1 Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM
To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the AF5 and at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not sure how increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"Colin Stanners via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I'd guess there's going to be... a least3 AirFiber products
    released in the next 12-18 months.

    If not sooner.

    Now... what would those be?

    Hrmmmmmmmmm.....

    josh reynolds :: chief information officer
    spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>

    On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:

        I don’t know what you are talking about.

        Rory

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh
        Reynolds via Af
        *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

        I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep
        expanding) is silently sitting in their own little corner in
        Chicago doing nothing.

        :P

        josh reynolds :: chief information officer

        spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>

        On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:

            I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all
the 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to provide a better performance within the
            new environment so there will still be a differentiator.
            The only question if it’s worth the difference.

            Rory

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
            *Stefan Englhardt via Af
            *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM
            *To:* Josh Luthman via Af
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

            .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it
            or not. Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but
            helps to keep customers and applications where 450 does
            not meet the price point.

            *Von:*Josh Luthman via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00
            *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <mailto:[email protected]>

            An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether
            Cambium would be
            fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a
            company do when
            it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one
            starts to outshine
            the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark?
            (mbps - even .AC
            ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc).

            On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

            >  The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac.
            >
            >
            > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39
            > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            >
            > I hope Cambium is listing on this point.
            >
            > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios
            at 10 meg price
            > point.
            >
            > They are about to have more competition from lot of
            other vendors too.
            >
            > Tushar
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
            Peter Kranz via Af
            > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM
            > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
            >
            > > Yes no maybe.
            >
            > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to
            light the competitive
            > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid
            of speed licenses.
            >
            >






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