The AF5 is too much money for a backhaul in an already overused frequency I 
think.

Besides, I have a link with the RM5AC-lites using the original rocket dish 5G30 
and getting a consistent 300Mbps for a mere $500. Put two of those links into 
an aggregate and get basically the same thing at half the price. My latency is 
1-2ms on a 3 mile link. I do have them shielded though. Without the shielding I 
was lucky if I got 150Mb.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Dec 11, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Gino Villarini via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It seems that af5 has not sold as well as forecasted? Lots of “sales” going 
> around
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com   
> @aeronetpr
> 
> 
> 
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 10:43 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> I know, but Keefe mentioned AF5, so I was responding to that.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:41:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> Im talking af24…
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com   
> @aeronetpr
> 
> 
> 
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 10:39 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> I want a bigger AF5. :-\
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Keefe John via Af" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:36:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the dogbone 
> design.  I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller AF5--even if it 
> had less throughput/distance.
> 
> Keefe
> 
> On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
> via license?  *ducking*
> 
> It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of design 
> and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller, cheaper 
> processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power supply? I'm 
> no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would not change the 
> price.
> 
> Something that only does 10 MHz wide?
> 
> I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they can go 
> with the existing hardware and still make money.
> 
> 
> 
> On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license system 
> because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I think 
> Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for (business) 
> customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to Full? Two things 
> to keep track of, not several.
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2 with 1 
> Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com   
> @aeronetpr
> 
> 
> 
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the AF5 and 
> at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not sure how 
> increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Colin Stanners via Af" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
> 
> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the 100mhz 
> channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit 
> backhaul...  I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well.
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products released in the 
>> next 12-18 months.
>> 
>> If not sooner.
>> 
>> Now... what would those be?
>> 
>> Hrmmmmmmmmm.....
>> 
>>  josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
>> I don’t know what you are talking about.
>>  
>> Rory
>>  
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>  
>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is silently 
>> sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing.
>> 
>> :P
>> 
>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the 802.11ac 
>> vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules.  The 450 is able to provide a 
>> better performance within the new environment so there will still be a 
>> differentiator.  The only question if it’s worth the difference.
>>  
>> Rory
>>  
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt via Af
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM
>> To: Josh Luthman via Af
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>  
>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. Others do. 
>> epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers and 
>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point.
>>  
>> Von: Josh Luthman via Af
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00
>> An: Josh Luthman via Af
>>  
>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium would be
>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do when
>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to outshine
>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even .AC
>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc).
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >  The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac.
>> >
>> >
>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39
>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point.
>> >
>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg price
>> > point.
>> >
>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors too.
>> >
>> > Tushar
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>> >
>> > > Yes no maybe.
>> >
>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the competitive
>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed licenses.
>> >
>> >
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