I've yet to see anyone running a serious large metro area network *without* extensive, near 95%+ use of L3 routing protocols between every node. By serious, I define as occupying at least a /20 of IP space, having its own ASN, peering/exchanging traffic at a major exchange point, and speaking BGP with two or more upstreams.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > The people traditionally running a bridged network are not the types that > are understanding of any of the things you just mentioned. Not sure I'd > accept VLANs as being sufficient, but the other stuff would be an upgrade. > > The "overall industry"? Which industry is this, Mark? The carriers with 10 > GigE or 100 GigE between locations where extra traffic isn't even noticed > or the WISP industry with 4 meg access points? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Mark Radabaugh via Af" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:55:55 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- Bridged vs Routed > > MEF, PBB, PBB-TE, MPLS, VLAN, G.8032, ERPS, VLAN, etc. are all valid > alternatives to a L3 routed network. All of these are tools in the > toolbox. > > If you insist that the only proper tool is a hammer that's your choice - > but I don't think the results are going to be all that pretty. > > Mark > > On 12/17/14, 10:49 AM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: > > I'm hoping that this show will actually discuss the advantages of a > "non-routed" L2 bridged network using MPLS, VLANs or whatever. > > Josh > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> That statement is so completely wrong I'm not even sure where to start. >> >> Ah well... just keep going exactly the opposite direction of the overall >> industry. Good luck with that. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 12/17/14, 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >> >>> Seems like an awfully quick show. Are you bridging? *slap* Stop it. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Dennis Burgess via Af <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:25:22 -0600 (CST) >>> Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- Bridged vs Routed >>> >>> <http://www.ispradio.com/> >>> http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGCo-Host Dennis >>> Burgess will be discussing bridging vs routing with host Steven Grabiel. >>> Join us live and ask questions about “Bridging vs Routing” >>> >>> >>> Wednesday 11am CST >>> >>> >>> Don’t forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media >>> player and listen while in your car free of charge by going to < >>> http://www.ispradio.com> www.ispradio.com Remember to sign into the >>> live chat to ask questions! You can find our Podcast on I-Tunes ! >>> >>> >>> n UPCOMMING SHOWS! >>> >>> n December 24th – No Show –Happy Holidays >>> >>> n January 14th – Nathan Stooke from WISPERISP will be talking about >>> “Over the Top TV” >>> >>> n January 21st – Anand Buch CEO of Netsapiens >>> >>> n January 28th – Patrick Leary with Telrad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dennis Burgess, Co-Host of ISP Radio! >>> >>> <http://www.ispradio.com> http://www.ispradio.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mark Radabaugh >> Amplex >> >> [email protected] 419.837.5015 x 1021 <419.837.5015%20x%201021> >> >> > > -- > Mark Radabaugh > Amplex > [email protected] 419.837.5015 x 1021 > > >
