I have an original/Gen-I Moto X and the ePMP GUI is somewhat annoyingly slow. It's maybe 10-12 seconds of "please wait" and then another 4-5 seconds of "getting dashboard" messages. Once I'm logged in, it seems fine. But the auto refresh scrolling pages all on its own is very annoying. I'm sure they will improve it. One thing they definitely need to fix is that for whatever reason, I do not get the "save this username/password" option. No idea why that is.

And yeah, that's Chrome. Chrome everywhere, because all of my bookmarks and passwords are sync'd. Even though Chrome's cache pisses me off to no end, and you wake up one morning and Google moved shit around.. I gots to have my bookmarks.

On 1/20/2015 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Galaxy S4 First released26 April 2013; 20 months ago

Isn't this right around the ePMP development time? Granted the phone is "a whole generation" back but there's no excuse for something of that age to have problems on a radio management page.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    okay... I just timed it, on my phone (Galaxy S4) it takes about 25
    seconds to get to the login... to actually get logged in and the
    first page loaded took me a full minute - for comparison, I can
    log into a UBNT radio and get the main page loaded in under 15
    seconds.

    It takes 4-5 seconds to get to the login on my desktop.

    On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Adam Moffett
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I don't know what makes the GUI slow for you or anybody
        else....I have literally never seen it load slowly.  Even on a
        crummy old Atom.  Even on a cell phone.

        I don't know what to say.


        I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same
        problem.  The interface takes too long when it first shows
        up.  Maybe it's because it gets all the information at once,
        maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it to be more smooth and faster.

        My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for
        Android.  The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.

        Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause,
        that's fine, but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to
        carry a big fat i7 laptop up the tower when I could just
        simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium,
        Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the
        one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of
        changing my devices that work with the competitors products
        (as well as different products under their portfolio).


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never
            seen the ePMP page load slowly.

            maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem,
            just trying to bring valid input to the discussion.

            On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just
                fine? This doesn't even make sense.  There are people
                with slower laptops that work with other modern
                devices and epmp is the only interface that loads
                slow.  There's no point in arguing peoples valid
                complaints.  Are you trying to direct the engineers
                attention to something else?


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial
                    screen and then two maybe three seconds to login.
                    As I doubt a screen capture will work when I'm
                    RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process
                    when I get home and post it up on YouTube.



                    -----
                    Mike Hammett
                    Intelligent Computing Solutions
                    http://www.ics-il.com

                    
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                    *From: *"Josh Luthman"
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs
                    <rant>

                    Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15
                    seconds just load and load and load.  Once you're
                    in, it's acceptable in terms of page rendering.


                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has
                        never been slow for us. It was UGLY, but they
                        fixed that with version 2.0 haha.

                        not sure why everyone says it's slow tho
                        because we've never seen it.

                        2 cents

                        -sean



                        On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My
                            Field Laptop, a Lenovo S10-3t, Atom
                            Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load
the EPMP WEB Pages in a timely manner. We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial
                            load, and 20-30 seconds per screen
                            refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to
                            have to go to the boss, and tell him that
                            I need a new laptop to do any field
                            troubleshooting for these new radios,
                            what are the minimum system specs for a
                            machine to view the EPMP Screens? Unless
                            Cambium is going to get their Web
                            interface under control as of Yesterday.

                            They still swear that the GUI was all
                            developed in house and not purchased
                            (something I still can't believe).  I'd
                            like to know who the engineers/managers
                            are who signed off on that design.  I can
                            only imaging that there was a group of
                            guys sitting around the conference table,
                            watching the presentation on the GUI on
                            the projector up front, all nodding their
                            heads in agreement, "I think this is a
                            wonderful layout, the field tech's won't
                            mind waiting a couple extra minutes for
                            the pages to load so they can look this
                            pretty!!"

                            I think that Cambium should step up and
                            get engineers from ALL aspects of product
                            development out into the field.  40
                            seconds waiting for the page to load is
                            fine when you're sitting in the office,
                            but not when you have the laptop balanced
                            on a stack of firewood in the freezing
                            rain trying to get to the monitoring page
                            to see why a radio isn't linking up.  I
                            think that every WISP on this list would
                            be more than happy to host an engineer
                            for a day. Heck, even if they go into the
                            parking lot and assemble it on the
                            tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get
                            some idea of what we experience.

                            I have a feeling that if all steps of the
                            Dev process took a week in the field,
                            We'd have a radio that had a GUI that
                            responded instantly on any device, and
                            radios that assembled and mounted (and
                            unmounted) with 1 gloved hand.

                            </rant>
                            Nate











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