yah, if it's a school, someone ELSE selected what browser they use...

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


  User base is CLEARLY an important key!!!


  collected from W3Schools' log-files since 2002





  Josh Luthman
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  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

    Chrome (no version attached) has 61% market share


    On January 20, 2015 10:31:25 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
      But wait until Windows 10 comes out with the Spartan browser.

      From: Adam Moffett 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:13 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


      
http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0

      According to that everyone still uses Internet Explorer.  I promise I'm 
as shocked as you are.


        Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

          Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite 
awhile on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.

          On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one 
browser and not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see lag?  
What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?

            On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!

              From: Chuck McCown 
              Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
              To: [email protected] 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

              Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?

              From: Sean Heskett 
              Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
              To: [email protected] 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

              less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well. 



              On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same 
problem.  The interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's 
because it gets all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it 
to be more smooth and faster. 

                My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for 
Android.  The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.

                Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's 
fine, but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop 
up the tower when I could just simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti, 
FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the one 
product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my devices that 
work with the competitors products (as well as different products under their 
portfolio).



                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373


                On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen 
the ePMP page load slowly. 

                  maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just 
trying to bring valid input to the discussion.  

                  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  
This doesn't even make sense.  There are people with slower laptops that work 
with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads slow.  
There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you trying to direct 
the engineers attention to something else?



                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373


                    On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and 
then two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will work 
when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get home and 
post it up on YouTube.




                      -----
                      Mike Hammett
                      Intelligent Computing Solutions
                      http://www.ics-il.com



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                      From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
                      To: [email protected]
                      Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
                      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


                      Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just 
load and load and load.  Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page 
rendering.


                      Josh Luthman
                      Office: 937-552-2340
                      Direct: 937-552-2343
                      1100 Wayne St
                      Suite 1337
                      Troy, OH 45373

                      On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been 
slow for us.  It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha. 

                        not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've 
never seen it.

                        2 cents

                        -sean



                        On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                          Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, 
a Lenovo S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB Pages 
in a timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 20-30 
seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have to go to the 
boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field troubleshooting for 
these new radios, what are the minimum system specs for a machine to view the 
EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium is going to get their Web interface under control 
as of Yesterday.

                          They still swear that the GUI was all developed in 
house and not purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know 
who the engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only 
imaging that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table, 
watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, all nodding 
their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the field tech's 
won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to load so they can 
look this pretty!!"

                          I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers 
from ALL aspects of product development out into the field.  40 seconds waiting 
for the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not when 
you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing rain trying 
to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't linking up.  I think 
that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to host an engineer for a 
day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and assemble it on the tailgate 
of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of what we experience.

                          I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process 
took a week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded 
instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) 
with 1 gloved hand.

                          </rant>
                          Nate














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