i'm good with my napkin in my wallet (snicker) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Hammett To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
NEVER save a password in your browser. They're all insecure. (and not just emotionally) If you aren't using LastPass or a similar service by now, you should slap yourself before going any further. Every password should be unique and randomly generated. BTW: If you're considering LastPass, use this link so I get a free month of the premium service ($1/month): https://lastpass.com/f?3544026 ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jeremy" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:43:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> Firefox also has a sync feature for passwords and bookmarks. Does the EPMP give you the option to save pass in Firefox? Do they use SSL? If so, that is why Chrome won't offer to save. On Jan 20, 2015 7:07 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected]> wrote: I have an original/Gen-I Moto X and the ePMP GUI is somewhat annoyingly slow. It's maybe 10-12 seconds of "please wait" and then another 4-5 seconds of "getting dashboard" messages. Once I'm logged in, it seems fine. But the auto refresh scrolling pages all on its own is very annoying. I'm sure they will improve it. One thing they definitely need to fix is that for whatever reason, I do not get the "save this username/password" option. No idea why that is. And yeah, that's Chrome. Chrome everywhere, because all of my bookmarks and passwords are sync'd. Even though Chrome's cache pisses me off to no end, and you wake up one morning and Google moved shit around.. I gots to have my bookmarks. On 1/20/2015 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Galaxy S4 First released 26 April 2013; 20 months ago Isn't this right around the ePMP development time? Granted the phone is "a whole generation" back but there's no excuse for something of that age to have problems on a radio management page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: okay... I just timed it, on my phone (Galaxy S4) it takes about 25 seconds to get to the login... to actually get logged in and the first page loaded took me a full minute - for comparison, I can log into a UBNT radio and get the main page loaded in under 15 seconds. It takes 4-5 seconds to get to the login on my desktop. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: I don't know what makes the GUI slow for you or anybody else....I have literally never seen it load slowly. Even on a crummy old Atom. Even on a cell phone. I don't know what to say. I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem. The interface takes too long when it first shows up. Maybe it's because it gets all the information at once, maybe not. Don't care. I want it to be more smooth and faster. My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android. The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that. Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's fine, but it's just flat out wrong. I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop up the tower when I could just simply use my phone. It works with Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my devices that work with the competitors products (as well as different products under their portfolio). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the ePMP page load slowly. maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying to bring valid input to the discussion. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine? This doesn't even make sense. There are people with slower laptops that work with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads slow. There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints. Are you trying to direct the engineers attention to something else? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will work when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get home and post it up on YouTube. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> Login takes forever. The first like 10-15 seconds just load and load and load. Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page rendering. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for us. It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha. not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never seen it. 2 cents -sean On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad. My Field Laptop, a Lenovo S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB Pages in a timely manner. We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 20-30 seconds per screen refresh/menu change. Since I'm going to have to go to the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system specs for a machine to view the EPMP Screens? Unless Cambium is going to get their Web interface under control as of Yesterday. They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and not purchased (something I still can't believe). I'd like to know who the engineers/managers are who signed off on that design. I can only imaging that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table, watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, all nodding their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the field tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to load so they can look this pretty!!" I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL aspects of product development out into the field. 40 seconds waiting for the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not when you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing rain trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't linking up. I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to host an engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and assemble it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of what we experience. I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) with 1 gloved hand. </rant> Nate
