back in the day, we had 3 or so 900 mhz radios that would not upgrade to 
hardware scheduling from software scheduling.  Out of probably 50 radios at the 
time.  That was the only issue EVER - really...

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Prince 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee


  After years of installing FSK radios, we never had one fail that wasn't due 
to some kind of external factors (tree falls on SM, bolt slips and SM flips 
upside-down and fills with water, Power company voltage doubles (with old-style 
transformer PS), etc.

  The very first PMP450 SM we installed had a weird problem where it would link 
up, test near 100%, but when it came to passing actual customer traffic, it 
would fall flat on its face.  I was convinced that I had some router or other 
problem, tried about a dozen things before I just swapped the SM.  Problem 
solved, but it did not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the new platform. 
 Haven't had one fail since though...


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/25/2015 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    It would be interesting to know what if any radios go through any 
functional testing before they ship.  Years ago, all electronic devices went 
through 100% testing, I’m guessing today very few are even powered up at the 
end of the production line.  I know I’ve seen a few routerboards with 1 bad 
Ethernet port out of the box, and radios that power up with some kind of 
warning notice like not calibrated.  I do remember a plant tour video from the 
Orthogon guys on the testing, burn-in and calibration they do (or at least did 
at the time) on every PTP radio.  Maybe licensed radios all get tested before 
shipment, I don’t know.  Maybe airFibers.


    From: Josh Luthman 
    Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:10 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee

    I had a bad SM already.  We believe a defective AP as well.  I have 8 
installed.

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> 
wrote:


      I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well.  Something to 
look out for.  We've only installed a handful of radios

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Craig House 
        To: [email protected] 
        Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee

        Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running 
a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 
meg before it would drop

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:


          Did you ever do a link test with epmp?

          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a  Rocket M2 
on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I 
tested yesterday.  I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests 
as pictured.  What is the problem with the EPMP equipment.  So far I am not 
impressed.  IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no 
problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT



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            From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee


            Ok  so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel 
that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower.  All 41 
customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% 
and better on all customers 

            So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP 
sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni  at the same height.?


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            From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee


            Cant use 5Ghz  All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though 
trees with 5ghz.  90% of my customer base is behind trees.  This is not the 
tower I plan on leaving it on.  But I dont understand why the noise floor would 
be that high here.  It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of 
nothing.  Cow pastures all around.  Unless the cows are carrying wireless 
routers??



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            From: "John Woodfield" <[email protected]>
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee


            I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4...

            John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 
708-1937




            -----Original Message-----
            From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
            Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm
            To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee




            Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up


            Sent from my iPhone

            On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield <[email protected]> 
wrote:


              That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad 
even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector?







              John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell 
(410) 708-1937




              -----Original Message-----
              From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
              Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm
              To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee




              Yes sorry.  Capacity is bad. Quality is good 


              Sent from my iPhone

              On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:


                Quality?

                On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, "Craig House" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Ok  done.  I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a 
screenshot of the analysis.  -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj
                  So that is not the problem.  Why would I have only 15% to 40% 
uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal

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                  From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
                  To: [email protected]
                  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee

                  Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio.


                  -----
                  Mike Hammett
                  Intelligent Computing Solutions
                  http://www.ics-il.com




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                  From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
                  To: [email protected]
                  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee

                  So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got 
to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool.  How do I use it.  It is a 
separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file?

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                  From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
                  To: [email protected]
                  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee

                  Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after.  I 
think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen.

                  Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff?

                  Josh Luthman
                  Office: 937-552-2340
                  Direct: 937-552-2343
                  1100 Wayne St
                  Suite 1337
                  Troy, OH 45373

                  On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, "Craig House" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 
years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work
                    The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an 
integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long 
as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to 
connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity?


                    The second question is that even a very close distances and 
was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity 
the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 
15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink 
is not doing what it should
                    What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking 
about in the second question



                    Sent from my iPhone




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