They change to cat 5 on the outside of the house
On Feb 9, 2015 7:37 AM, "That One Guy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> How do you protect the fiber from the customer in the house as far as
> keeping them from sullying up the glass connecting and disconnecting it? Do
> you find as high an incidence of cut fiber in the home as with Ethernet
> runs or do customers seem to be more wary of the fiber run?
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Jason Pond <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> SEE INLINE RED
>>
>> 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list?  I
>> LEAVE THIS TO STERLING AND CHUCK TO POST
>>
>> 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you running
>> the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers responsibility
>> from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet cable for people?
>> So this depends a little on setup but for the most part you need to have
>> an outside NID box, and maybe outside ONT for a GPON setup,   In Sterling's
>> case he was putting a RB250GS in an outdoor enclosure and ethernet inside
>> to a WiFi router I think of customer choosing.  We are taking a different
>> approach and putting a RB2011 inside with Fiber going all the way to the
>> inside of the house and managing the customer router for them.
>>
>> 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the neighborhood
>> peds?
>> There are pedestals/vault and cabinets.  Inside a peds/vault there is
>> just fiber maybe a splice case or MST box depending on the design.
>> Cabinets on the other hand need equipment to do the following: Access to
>> you network and to feed your network out to the customer.  I.E. EDGE/CORE
>> Router hooked to fiber or wireless devices to receive the internet /
>> network feed and if you are doing an Active Ethernet setup like Sterling
>> and Chuck Hogg you need multi-port SFP switches.  Each SFP port goes to a
>> customer.  Single fiber to each household / business.
>>
>> 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for
>> your wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you have
>> to get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers?
>> Powercode is just a customer management system w/ billing so yes you can
>> use it and you can keep track of all of your details in it also.  I.E. Tube
>> # / Color / Fiber strand to which customer and what port they are plugged
>> into the switch
>>
>> 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are for
>> years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and service
>> connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning to be able
>> to use a locator to find it?
>> Some are using google maps, others surveying, we will be using a GPS
>> tracking software kept in a database tracked through iDevices with GPS
>> bluetooth "pucks"  this will be exported into google maps and KML format
>> when done for future needs.  I will have this system available for use
>> later in the year with a lot more details after our build gets underway.
>>
>> Just like in wireless you can skin the cat a million ways everyone has a
>> different take and we hope to help anywhere we can as our project gets
>> underway this summer.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jason Pond
>> Grizzly Internet, Inc
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Trevor Bough <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys, I really enjoyed the fiber build out forum and have come up
>>> with a few questions since lunch yesterday:
>>>
>>> 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list?
>>> 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you running
>>> the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers responsibility
>>> from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet cable for people?
>>> 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the
>>> neighborhood peds?
>>> 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for
>>> your wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you have
>>> to get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers?
>>> 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are
>>> for years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and
>>> service connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning to
>>> be able to use a locator to find it?
>>>
>>
>>
>
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