We run fiber inside. Wall mount the CPE, bend insensitive tight buffer
cable with field installed connection, stapled to wall so it can't get
snagged. Educate customer it is not user serviceable and provide costs for
a service call to re-terminate or splice fiber. No problems yet. Some
resistance to having a router mounted to their wall but we explain it's
safest and they are usually OK.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jason Pond <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We are planning on running fiber to inside.  We will be using bend
> insensitive and labeling DO NOT TOUCH.  There should be no reason for the
> customer to touch the fiber.
>
> I know Chuck Hogg does it this way also and as far as I know he has not
> had any problems.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jason Pond
> Grizzly Internet, Inc
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:33 AM, That One Guy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I was asking Jason Pond, it sounds like he runs fiber to the inside
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> They change to cat 5 on the outside of the house
>>> On Feb 9, 2015 7:37 AM, "That One Guy" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do you protect the fiber from the customer in the house as far as
>>>> keeping them from sullying up the glass connecting and disconnecting it? Do
>>>> you find as high an incidence of cut fiber in the home as with Ethernet
>>>> runs or do customers seem to be more wary of the fiber run?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Jason Pond <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SEE INLINE RED
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list?
>>>>>  I LEAVE THIS TO STERLING AND CHUCK TO POST
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you
>>>>> running the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers
>>>>> responsibility from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet cable
>>>>> for people?
>>>>> So this depends a little on setup but for the most part you need to
>>>>> have an outside NID box, and maybe outside ONT for a GPON setup,   In
>>>>> Sterling's case he was putting a RB250GS in an outdoor enclosure and
>>>>> ethernet inside to a WiFi router I think of customer choosing.  We are
>>>>> taking a different approach and putting a RB2011 inside with Fiber going
>>>>> all the way to the inside of the house and managing the customer router 
>>>>> for
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the
>>>>> neighborhood peds?
>>>>> There are pedestals/vault and cabinets.  Inside a peds/vault there is
>>>>> just fiber maybe a splice case or MST box depending on the design.
>>>>> Cabinets on the other hand need equipment to do the following: Access to
>>>>> you network and to feed your network out to the customer.  I.E. EDGE/CORE
>>>>> Router hooked to fiber or wireless devices to receive the internet /
>>>>> network feed and if you are doing an Active Ethernet setup like Sterling
>>>>> and Chuck Hogg you need multi-port SFP switches.  Each SFP port goes to a
>>>>> customer.  Single fiber to each household / business.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for
>>>>> your wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you 
>>>>> have
>>>>> to get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers?
>>>>> Powercode is just a customer management system w/ billing so yes you
>>>>> can use it and you can keep track of all of your details in it also.  I.E.
>>>>> Tube # / Color / Fiber strand to which customer and what port they are
>>>>> plugged into the switch
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are
>>>>> for years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and
>>>>> service connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be able to use a locator to find it?
>>>>> Some are using google maps, others surveying, we will be using a GPS
>>>>> tracking software kept in a database tracked through iDevices with GPS
>>>>> bluetooth "pucks"  this will be exported into google maps and KML format
>>>>> when done for future needs.  I will have this system available for use
>>>>> later in the year with a lot more details after our build gets underway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like in wireless you can skin the cat a million ways everyone has
>>>>> a different take and we hope to help anywhere we can as our project gets
>>>>> underway this summer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Pond
>>>>> Grizzly Internet, Inc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Trevor Bough <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys, I really enjoyed the fiber build out forum and have come up
>>>>>> with a few questions since lunch yesterday:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list?
>>>>>> 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you
>>>>>> running the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers
>>>>>> responsibility from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet 
>>>>>> cable
>>>>>> for people?
>>>>>> 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the
>>>>>> neighborhood peds?
>>>>>> 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for
>>>>>> your wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers?
>>>>>> 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are
>>>>>> for years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and
>>>>>> service connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be able to use a locator to find it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>
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