So what is the minimum number of houses within a particular geographic area
that would make it cost effective to do a fiber solution? rough numbers. We
have a particular housing set out in the country we have battled to service
forever, there are only about 10 houses, most of which have tried to get
our service. it consists primarily of a single 3/4 mile road buried deep in
trees. Half of them arent able to even get satellite reliably without
cutting trees or butting up 50 foot towers. We have LOS to one of the
residences at the end of the little subdivision, we have considered various
wireless options but the trees and locations of the houses would limit it
to a 900mhz solution, for ten customers and a micropop contract the risks
of 900mhz problems were never really justifiable.

Would you guys see that small of a project over 3/4 mile of road
justifiable if the average take plan was 39 bucks a month requiring a
single hop backhaul and residential micropop contract?

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  That’s just a pessimistic number I plugged in there.
>
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> We are self-funding first, then we are bank funding with collateral, then
> we are debt funded from angel/private investors.
>
>
>
> Last thing we would do is equity funding, but it would have to be in the
> millions for that.
>
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>
> I don’t touch VC funding. My company isn’t structured that way right now.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 8:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
>
>
>
> Sterling,
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>
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> Are you paying 12% interest to investors on a 5 year note for these
> builds? Where are you finding these investors to fund the neighborhood
> builds?
>
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>  I like Gino said, I have two partner companies that do all of our builds
> at cost and bill back their own company so to speak.
>
>
>
> The construction is not trivial.
>
>
>
> It’s very equipment and labor intensive, I would never dream of trying to
> do it myself.
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 7:20 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
>
>
>
> I'm sure he will answer, but I think he's hiring contractors where needed,
> but he's also hands on.
>
>  bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2015 6:15 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>  Is sterling doing his builds with sub contractors instead of doing the
> work himself?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hmmm… it shouldn’t block PDFs.  Resending Sterling’s PDF as a test
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 08, 2015 2:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
>
>
>
> I have had pdfs blocked before.
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:05 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
>
>
>
> Chuck,
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>
>
> Are you attaching a power point file or PDF?  I know pdf is allowed
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 07, 2015 7:51 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
>
>
>
> I attached it per my sent items...trying again.
>
>
>   Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 1.  Attached.
>
> 2.  RB2011 or GPON ONU.  Flat drop to side of the house, outdoor NID where
> flat drop is terminated, either a 50-75' jumper or bend insensitive fiber
> going into the inside of the home plugging into the electronics indoor.
>
> 3.  Not using peds, handhole with splice case or TE MST.
>
> 4.  Don't know, not a PC user.
>
> 5.  Google Maps.  Using a locator.
>
>
>
>
>   Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Trevor Bough <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I really enjoyed the fiber build out forum and have come up with
> a few questions since lunch yesterday:
>
> 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list?
> 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you running
> the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers responsibility
> from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet cable for people?
> 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the neighborhood
> peds?
> 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for your
> wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you have to
> get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers?
> 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are for
> years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and service
> connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning to be able
> to use a locator to find it?
>
>
>
>
>
>   <AFSterling.pdf>
>
>
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>
>



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