That's a problem of the OOBE issue.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I also wonder with MIMO systems why the V/H or -45/+45 polarities are not
> considered separate transmitters (because they are).  In which case each
> one should be  allowed up to the limit?
>
> AND... What allows UBNT to transmit at up to 27 dbm, yet PMP450 is limited
> to 22 dbm?  What's different there that I don't understand?  5 dbm is a
> bunch in my book.  Is it OOB that is the issue here?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/10/2015 10:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>  Personally I also feel there is a flaw in the way EIRP is regulated on
> FHSS systems.  The limit in 900 MHz is on total EIRP, not power spectral
> density.  Somehow the FCC feels it is OK to concentrate 4 watts in one
> narrow hopping sub-channel as long as the dwell time isn’t too long.
> That’s like saying you can use a magnifying glass to concentrate sunlight
> on a single ant and it won’t hurt the ant as long as you move it to a
> different ant every second.  No, you end up with a bunch of smoking ant
> carcasses on the sidewalk.
>
> Also the smartgrid mesh networks seem to violate the spirit of the
> requirement that you can’t get around the EIRP limit by using multiple
> transmitters to send the same data, for example in a MIMO system.
>
>
>  *From:* Jeremy Grip <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2015 12:10 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:02 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
>
>
>
> I think the point some are missing is the lesson learned from 900Mhz and
> smart meters.
>
>
>
> While 900Mhz is unlicensed spectrum, a single operator has managed to take
> it over in California to the point where no other user has any chance of
> using the spectrum for commercial purposes.
>
>
>
> By this I mean that PG&E’s deployment of smart meters on every power meter
> in the area, and on top of power poles, and other high sites, has raised
> the noise floor on this band to unusable levels for high speed
> communications.
>
>
>
> So by means of overwhelming numbers, PG&E managed to take over 900Mhz for
> its own users, stranding the investment of ISPs in this spectrum in
> affected markets. I don’t think the commissions initial concept of
> unlicensed spectrum was that a single operator would do this, I think they
> expected operators by this to use licensed spectrum.
>
>
>
> I’d like to see a limit on how many systems a particular entity can deploy
> in an unlicensed band. It could be some high number, like 1 million units.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-0000
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