Diffraction and refraction can explain some things like that. Much more likely propagation effects than super-duper modulation technology explaining the difference. Time will tell.
From: Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data,with profiles and pics He was trying to shoot through earth, which was a mistake. Like I mention in the notes, we had nothing to do with the testing and recommend once he shared this that he restore the manual down tilt so it only has the 4 degree electronic DT. Ground absorption is worse for us than leaves, which have been shown to actually improve some links compared to no leaves. We believe what's happening then is just the signal bouncing/reflecting across the tree tops, even in some cases reliably reflecting down into hole. This is clearly what's happening with the "sheep hole" shot on You Tube because it sure ain't going through earth. Same situation that an Iowa WISP reports and Jim Patient has verified -- there's a link TowerCoverage says should not be connecting at all on the other side of a hill, but the WISP has maintained a stable 20+Mbps. We'll never make claims it can do those things, but when I have evidence of those cases I report them if I've good, reliable information. That's the fun stuff, though you can't build a business model on those anomalies. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with profiles and pics I like seeing the tests. Gives me an idea on what to expect. I'm concerned that guy is shooting through earth in those profile shots. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 19, 2015 12:34 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> wrote: ...by the way, show me any other vendor openly and publicly sharing this sort of thing. They don't. They only will show you polished and highly scrubbed material. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with profiles and pics Apparently you did not read the note in the document, which directly address your comment. Why I bother sharing anything is sometimes beyond me. If this sort of thing is not welcome here, please make that known and I'll not share it. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with profiles and pics mean to say...don't mean *much* to me On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Eric Muehleisen <[email protected]> wrote: There is shooting through trees. Then there is shooting through trees with leaves on them. Then there is shooting through trees with leaves on them on a windy day. These numbers don't mean to me. Retest in mid-June and post those numbers. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> wrote: Hi folks, You should eat this up. In the interest of trying to stay completely transparent, here is some data. The customer sent it yesterday in the context of seeking further technical recommendation. As I've said many times, the object of any successful testing protocol is not so much to find what something can do, but rather what it can't -- if you do not know the limits of your gear, you know nothing. So here is some meaty material. All I've done is add some notes to the beginning for context, and deleted customer and exact location identifying information before converting it into a pdf for your consumption. Kimono wide open,. as some of these shots report as no go's. Enjoy, and let me know if you like this sort of data. 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