Keep them coming Patrick...some of us are eager to learn.  I appreciate the
time and effort to post your thoughts.   I am old school and fascinated by
NLOS performance above 900MHz...so keep them coming.

Jaime Solorza
On Mar 19, 2015 10:58 AM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> wrote:

>  He was trying to shoot through earth, which was a mistake. Like I
> mention in the notes, we had nothing to do with the testing and recommend
> once he shared this that he restore the manual down tilt so it only has the
> 4 degree electronic DT. Ground absorption is worse for us than leaves,
> which have been shown to actually improve some links compared to no leaves.
> We believe what's happening then is just the signal bouncing/reflecting
> across the tree tops, even in some cases reliably reflecting down into
> hole. This is clearly what's happening with the "sheep hole" shot on You
> Tube because it sure ain't going through earth. Same situation that an Iowa
> WISP reports and Jim Patient has verified -- there's a link TowerCoverage
> says should not be connecting at all on the other side of a hill, but the
> WISP has maintained a stable 20+Mbps. We'll never make claims it can do
> those things, but when I have evidence of those cases I report them if I've
> good, reliable information. That's the fun stuff, though you can't build a
> business model on those anomalies.
>
>
>
> *Patrick Leary*
>
> *M* 727.501.3735
>
> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:48 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with
> profiles and pics
>
>
>
> I like seeing the tests.  Gives me an idea on what to expect.
>
> I'm concerned that guy is shooting through earth in those profile shots.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 19, 2015 12:34 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ...by the way, show me any other vendor openly and publicly sharing this
> sort of thing. They don't. They only will show you polished and highly
> scrubbed material.
>
>
>
> *Patrick Leary*
>
> *M* 727.501.3735
>
>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Leary
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with
> profiles and pics
>
>
>
> Apparently you did not read the note in the document, which directly
> address your comment. Why I bother sharing anything is sometimes beyond me.
> If this sort of thing is not welcome here, please make that known and I'll
> not share it.
>
>
>
> *Patrick Leary*
>
> *M* 727.501.3735
>
>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:16 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Detailed customer-provided testing data, with
> profiles and pics
>
>
>
> mean to say...don't mean *much* to me
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Eric Muehleisen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> There is shooting through trees. Then there is shooting through trees with
> leaves on them. Then there is shooting through trees with leaves on them on
> a windy day.
>
>
>
> These numbers don't mean to me. Retest in mid-June and post those numbers.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
> You should eat this up. In the interest of trying to stay completely
> transparent, here is some data. The customer sent it yesterday in the
> context of seeking further technical recommendation. As I've said many
> times, the object of any successful testing protocol is not so much to find
> what something can do, but rather what it can't -- if you do not know the
> limits of your gear, you know nothing. So here is some meaty material. All
> I've done is add some notes to the beginning for context, and deleted
> customer and exact location identifying information before converting it
> into a pdf for your consumption.
>
>
>
> Kimono wide open,. as some of these shots report as no go's.
>
>
>
> Enjoy, and let me know if you like this sort of data.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
> Telrad
>
>
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