What are ya'll feeding Ben? :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ben Moore 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line


  We have had safety stock here in USA for past 365-485 days (Josh - 2 accurate 
numbers in one day!)  ;)


  On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

    There's an actual warehouse in the US. If he's saying they have them here, 
then it's that distros haven't been placing orders appropriately. I would 
expect that they are trying to slow down purchases on nanos and the link for 
the "any day now" DFS/lower certs on nanobeam/powerbeam.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 03/20/2015 02:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

      Are you including the NSM5 that isn't US and can't be shipped to me?  If 
you are genuinely asking I can answer but I'd prefer offlist.




      Josh Luthman
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      Direct: 937-552-2343
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      On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

        NanoStations?  Who was out of Nano's?  We have thousands sitting here 
that distributors can pull from if needed...


        On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          Tons of other stuff is Airshipped and yet my distributor doesn't know 
when it's arriving for sure?  Specifically Nanostations being the most recent.




          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373


          On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

            That is the good thing about these...they are being air shipped ;-) 
 You can imagine what I would say with all of the port issues if they were 
going "on the boat" ;)



            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              I can't think of any.  If you take the word "soon" and "on the 
boat" out of your emails, we'd save about 15 terabytes of storage.




              Josh Luthman
              Office: 937-552-2340
              Direct: 937-552-2343
              1100 Wayne St
              Suite 1337
              Troy, OH 45373


              On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                Come on now...I know I have done it at least once before in the 
last 15 years...Man, can't believe it has already been 15 years!!!!


                On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Well they may or may not be reliable, but you stated a 
quantifiable value.  That has to be a first.




                  Josh Luthman
                  Office: 937-552-2340
                  Direct: 937-552-2343
                  1100 Wayne St
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                  Troy, OH 45373


                  On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Ben Moore 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Hey, who says they are accurate??


                    On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      Did Ben...just measure...in accurate numbers?????????????




                      Josh Luthman
                      Office: 937-552-2340
                      Direct: 937-552-2343
                      1100 Wayne St
                      Suite 1337
                      Troy, OH 45373


                      On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ben Moore 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        No, but should be in distributors hands in ~7-10 days.


                        On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                          this is a cheap link, nanopowerbeams are integrated 
not connectorized 


                          I didnt give much thought to the AF5x since its not 
in anybodys actual hands yet is it?


                          On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                            I guess because you're too cheap to spend an extra 
$400 on the link? Personally, I wouldn't... if I'm going to go cheap, might as 
well go all the way cheap and use a pair of NanoPowerBeams.



                            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                              I don't know why you'd do UBNT AC when you can do 
AF5x unless it needs done in the next couple weeks.




                              Josh Luthman
                              Office: 937-552-2340
                              Direct: 937-552-2343
                              1100 Wayne St
                              Suite 1337
                              Troy, OH 45373


                              On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                                Yes, the Rockets are the only connectorized 
units.


                                The Lite is cheap and can do PtP or PtMP, but 
does not have airprism. The PtP and PtMP have airPrism, but there's apparently 
differences in airprism between the two which means they will always be limited 
to ptp or ptmp, as far as I know this is going to be a permanent separation.


                                The AC radios have faster CPUs and that sort of 
thing, so they are going to perform better than the old junk, they also have 
some spiffy features like live airview. The biggest downside to the AC line at 
this point is the lack of DFS and UNII-1.


                                I personally wouldn't put up anything with the 
old M5 stuff at this point unless you need to for compatibility reasons, UBNT 
AC should perform best of the three, but ePMP gives you a bit more flexibility 
at this point. I expect AF5x to be better than any of them in every way.



                                On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:02 PM, That One Guy 
<[email protected]> wrote:



                                The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, 
these are the only connectorized units?


                                What are the differences between lite, ptp, and 
ptmp airprism only?


                                Are some of these shipping without all there 
guts?


                                I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket 
tranzeo link, we already have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 
foot HP parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont 
know whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT of ptp and ptmp 
or is this two things that are going to converge?


                                Other than the Ac component, for a low 
throughput demand link is there any major benefit of going to the AC over the 
M5 in terms of performance? (future demand is a factor as well)


                                Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies 
between the three products there?
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