>From my basic knowledge of electronics and taking apart radios, anything above 28-36V needs a transformer and support circuitry instead of just a voltage regulator IC, that entails a big jump in the price and board complexity of the power supply. The AirFiber5X's FPGA is capable of 500mbits of OFDM, certainly that is not cheap so I think they're trying to limit the bells and whistles to get it selling at only $400.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Mike, have you asked them for a voltage spec? If it turned out to > accept 20-60V you’d probably change your mind and say that is brilliant. > > *From:* Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:05 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line > > 24v works way better for me. All my sites are 24v. I have to upconvert > to 48v when needed. There is no easy fix because I cannot fit two more > batteries in my cabinet, and it would be a total rework even if I could. > So it was me and the ten or so that I'll buy. Thanks UBNT! > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Everything UBNT has says carrier. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:57:46 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >> >> Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to buy a >> million units, and already had 24V at their remote small cell cabinets, or >> something like that. The description does say carrier backhaul radio, >> maybe that’s a hint. >> >> WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only market. It’s >> possible this decision makes great sense and the reason isn’t apparent from >> our/your perspective. >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >> >> 24v... because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product. Just use >> 48v on everything! First three products use essentially 48v... . than >> let's do a 24... because! >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >> >> I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption value. The data >> sheet is no help except that it says the thing uses 24V 1a POE injector. >> That implies a maximum of 24 watts. So less than 24 watts. Anyone have >> one installed that has measured actual power consumption? If they're >> running the POE at 50% duty cycle, that would suggest about 12 watts. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: >> >> I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the UBNT list >> awhile back but no one seemed to notice. I intend to keep adding to it >> based on input from the community. >> >> -Ty >> On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hot damn! Who made that?!? >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: >>> >>> Oops let's try again. How about this chart... >>> ubnt radio comparison >>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10BwvYDqrI4D8nmDRaNtfCeou0j2uZPMGIfXf9GB-cCc/edit?usp=drivesdk> >>> >>> -Ty >>> On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Try this chart. >>>> On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, charts are always good. Especially if the chart would also >>>>> have checkmarks for which U-NII bands they are currently approved for. >>>>> And >>>>> what power they take. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>> >>>>> Yes, we do have too many variants. It is being streamlined in the >>>>> AC line with NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have multiple sizes). >>>>> >>>>> NanoBeam = all integrated >>>>> PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design >>>>> >>>>> It is a challenge with sku's since may sku's are needed for different >>>>> areas of the world (i.e. some products are very popular here and not as >>>>> popular in other parts of the world). >>>>> >>>>> Would chart help? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ben, you guys have too many product variants, and in some cases >>>>>> need better naming. Like NanoBridge, NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC, >>>>>> PowerBeam AC. I honestly don’t understand the difference between a >>>>>> NanoBeam and a PowerBeam, or why one has models by antenna gain in dB and >>>>>> the other by antenna size in mm. >>>>>> >>>>>> And of course the NanoStation Loco, why is it Loco? Because it’s >>>>>> crazy small? >>>>>> >>>>>> Then there’s the M vs W thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> My head hurts. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>> >>>>>> Here you go: >>>>>> >>>>>> Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP >>>>>> PTP - PTP only, airPrism >>>>>> PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism >>>>>> >>>>>> These are split due to the filtering used for each (maximize PTP and >>>>>> PTMP performance). We won't split unless there is a performance reason >>>>>> to. The cost is same either way... >>>>>> >>>>>> How much is the budget? Consider AF-5X? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That One Guy < >>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only >>>>>>> connectorized units? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are some of these shipping without all there guts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we already >>>>>>> have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP >>>>>>> parabolics. I >>>>>>> figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont know whats >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT of ptp and ptmp or is this >>>>>>> two things that are going to converge? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is >>>>>>> there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of >>>>>>> performance? (future demand is a factor as well) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three >>>>>>> products there? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the >>>>>>> team. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >
