I was happy they went with 24v, because we have 24v everywhere now, and only 48v in a few places, so it's going to make upgrading a lot easier.
That said, why can't everything just be like the ePMP synced radios and just run off whatever you throw at it? On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > Might want to fly that past Forrest. His SiteMonitor takes a fairly wide > voltage input range, and I consider his products reasonably priced. > > Others have been squeezing switching power supplies into some really small > form factors lately. Almost all the power supplies your see these days are > voltage and frequency agnostic. I've even plugged in a few AC power > supplies into a DC source, and they work just fine. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 3/22/2015 8:51 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: > > From my basic knowledge of electronics and taking apart radios, anything > above 28-36V needs a transformer and support circuitry instead of just a > voltage regulator IC, that entails a big jump in the price and board > complexity of the power supply. The AirFiber5X's FPGA is capable of > 500mbits of OFDM, certainly that is not cheap so I think they're trying to > limit the bells and whistles to get it selling at only $400. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mike, have you asked them for a voltage spec? If it turned out to >> accept 20-60V you’d probably change your mind and say that is brilliant. >> >> *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:05 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >> >> 24v works way better for me. All my sites are 24v. I have to >> upconvert to 48v when needed. There is no easy fix because I cannot fit >> two more batteries in my cabinet, and it would be a total rework even if I >> could. So it was me and the ten or so that I'll buy. Thanks UBNT! >> >> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Everything UBNT has says carrier. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:57:46 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>> >>> Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to buy a >>> million units, and already had 24V at their remote small cell cabinets, or >>> something like that. The description does say carrier backhaul radio, >>> maybe that’s a hint. >>> >>> WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only market. It’s >>> possible this decision makes great sense and the reason isn’t apparent from >>> our/your perspective. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>> >>> 24v... because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product. Just use >>> 48v on everything! First three products use essentially 48v... . than >>> let's do a 24... because! >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>> >>> I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption value. The >>> data sheet is no help except that it says the thing uses 24V 1a POE >>> injector. That implies a maximum of 24 watts. So less than 24 watts. >>> Anyone have one installed that has measured actual power consumption? If >>> they're running the POE at 50% duty cycle, that would suggest about 12 >>> watts. >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: >>> >>> I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the UBNT list >>> awhile back but no one seemed to notice. I intend to keep adding to it >>> based on input from the community. >>> >>> -Ty >>> On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hot damn! Who made that?!? >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: >>>> >>>> Oops let's try again. How about this chart... >>>> ubnt radio comparison >>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10BwvYDqrI4D8nmDRaNtfCeou0j2uZPMGIfXf9GB-cCc/edit?usp=drivesdk> >>>> >>>> -Ty >>>> On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try this chart. >>>>> On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, charts are always good. Especially if the chart would also >>>>>> have checkmarks for which U-NII bands they are currently approved for. >>>>>> And >>>>>> what power they take. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, we do have too many variants. It is being streamlined in the >>>>>> AC line with NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have multiple sizes). >>>>>> >>>>>> NanoBeam = all integrated >>>>>> PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a challenge with sku's since may sku's are needed for different >>>>>> areas of the world (i.e. some products are very popular here and not as >>>>>> popular in other parts of the world). >>>>>> >>>>>> Would chart help? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben, you guys have too many product variants, and in some cases >>>>>>> need better naming. Like NanoBridge, NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC, >>>>>>> PowerBeam AC. I honestly don’t understand the difference between a >>>>>>> NanoBeam and a PowerBeam, or why one has models by antenna gain in dB >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the other by antenna size in mm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And of course the NanoStation Loco, why is it Loco? Because it’s >>>>>>> crazy small? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then there’s the M vs W thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My head hurts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here you go: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP >>>>>>> PTP - PTP only, airPrism >>>>>>> PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are split due to the filtering used for each (maximize PTP and >>>>>>> PTMP performance). We won't split unless there is a performance reason >>>>>>> to. The cost is same either way... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How much is the budget? Consider AF-5X? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That One Guy < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only >>>>>>>> connectorized units? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are some of these shipping without all there guts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we >>>>>>>> already have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP >>>>>>>> parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont >>>>>>>> know whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT of ptp >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> ptmp or is this two things that are going to converge? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is >>>>>>>> there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of >>>>>>>> performance? (future demand is a factor as well) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three >>>>>>>> products there? >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the >>>>>>>> team. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
