hahahaha

On 03/30/2015 04:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Don’t give Mike any of the dolls, you don’t want to know where he would stick an SFP.
*From:* Ben Moore <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
*Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 7:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
Maybe I can get Mike Hammett to hand out these instead of SFP's?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:

    I like that idea!!!  Anyone want to make some up?  Maybe we will
    hand them out at the next show ;)
    On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        Ben, you should send out miniature voodoo dolls of yourself
        with miniature pitchforks, to satisfy the people with
        pitchfork urges.
Again no stock? Stab, stab, stab. OK, feel better now. Maybe tomorrow.
        *From:* Ben Moore <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
        *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 7:32 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
        As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow and Thursday.
        On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com
        <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:

            at US distributors
            On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Josh Luthman
            <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                Arrives where?

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Mar 30, 2015 8:30 PM, "Ben Moore"
                <ben.mo...@ubnt.com <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:

                    Guys -
                    One shipment arrives tomorrow and one on Thursday...
                    On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Josh Luthman
                    <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                    <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                        Well they kept saying they're better at having
                        stock. Several of them said March.

                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
                        Suite 1337
                        Troy, OH 45373

                        On Mar 30, 2015 8:23 PM, "Mathew Howard"
                        <mhoward...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                            You didn't really think that number would
                            be accurate, did you?
                            On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh
                            Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                                Well you can wait 2 weeks but after
                                being told 10 days I expected 10 days.

                                Josh Luthman
                                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                                1100 Wayne St
                                Suite 1337
                                Troy, OH 45373

                                On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM,
                                Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
                                <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                                    So if we don't have them in two
                                    weeks we can get out our torches
                                    and pitchforks?
                                    On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:31 PM,
                                    Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com
                                    <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:

                                        No, but should be in
                                        distributors hands in ~7-10 days.
                                        On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30
                                        PM, That One Guy
                                        <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                                        <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
                                        wrote:

                                            this is a cheap link,
                                            nanopowerbeams are
                                            integrated not connectorized
                                            I didnt give much thought
                                            to the AF5x since its not
                                            in anybodys actual hands
                                            yet is it?
                                            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at
                                            4:24 PM, Mathew Howard
                                            <mhoward...@gmail.com
                                            <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
                                            wrote:

                                                I guess because you're
                                                too cheap to spend an
                                                extra $400 on the
                                                link? Personally, I
                                                wouldn't... if I'm
                                                going to go cheap,
                                                might as well go all
                                                the way cheap and use
                                                a pair of NanoPowerBeams.
                                                On Fri, Mar 20, 2015
                                                at 4:18 PM, Josh
                                                Luthman
                                                <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                                                
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
                                                wrote:

                                                    I don't know why
                                                    you'd do UBNT AC
                                                    when you can do
                                                    AF5x unless it
                                                    needs done in the
                                                    next couple weeks.

                                                    Josh Luthman
                                                    Office:
                                                    937-552-2340
                                                    <tel:937-552-2340>
                                                    Direct:
                                                    937-552-2343
                                                    <tel:937-552-2343>
                                                    1100 Wayne St
                                                    Suite 1337
                                                    Troy, OH 45373

                                                    On Fri, Mar 20,
                                                    2015 at 5:16 PM,
                                                    Mathew Howard
                                                    <mhoward...@gmail.com
                                                    
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
                                                    wrote:

                                                        Yes, the
                                                        Rockets are
                                                        the only
                                                        connectorized
                                                        units.

                                                        The Lite is
                                                        cheap and can
                                                        do PtP or
                                                        PtMP, but does
                                                        not have
                                                        airprism. The
                                                        PtP and PtMP
                                                        have airPrism,
                                                        but there's
                                                        apparently
                                                        differences in
                                                        airprism
                                                        between the
                                                        two which
                                                        means they
                                                        will always be
                                                        limited to ptp
                                                        or ptmp, as
                                                        far as I know
                                                        this is going
                                                        to be a
                                                        permanent
                                                        separation.

                                                        The AC radios
                                                        have faster
                                                        CPUs and that
                                                        sort of thing,
                                                        so they are
                                                        going to
                                                        perform better
                                                        than the old
                                                        junk, they
                                                        also have some
                                                        spiffy
                                                        features like
                                                        live airview.
                                                        The biggest
                                                        downside to
                                                        the AC line at
                                                        this point is
                                                        the lack of
                                                        DFS and UNII-1.

                                                        I personally
                                                        wouldn't put
                                                        up anything
                                                        with the old
                                                        M5 stuff at
                                                        this point
                                                        unless you
                                                        need to for
                                                        compatibility
                                                        reasons, UBNT
                                                        AC should
                                                        perform best
                                                        of the three,
                                                        but ePMP gives
                                                        you a bit more
                                                        flexibility at
                                                        this point. I
                                                        expect AF5x to
                                                        be better than
                                                        any of them in
                                                        every way.
                                                        On Fri, Mar
                                                        20, 2015 at
                                                        4:02 PM, That
                                                        One Guy
                                                        
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                                                        
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
                                                        wrote:

                                                            The
                                                            current
                                                            iteractions of
                                                            the rocket
                                                            AC line,
                                                            these are
                                                            the only
                                                            connectorized
                                                            units?
                                                            What are
                                                            the
                                                            differences between
                                                            lite, ptp,
                                                            and ptmp
                                                            airprism only?
                                                            Are some
                                                            of these
                                                            shipping
                                                            without
                                                            all there
                                                            guts?
                                                            I am
                                                            looking at
                                                            replacing
                                                            an old
                                                            shitbucket
                                                            tranzeo
                                                            link, we
                                                            already
                                                            have it
                                                            connected
                                                            to one pol
                                                            of a set
                                                            of
                                                            radiowaves
                                                            2 foot HP
                                                            parabolics. I
                                                            figure its
                                                            worth
                                                            checking
                                                            out these
                                                            AC radios,
                                                            but I dont
                                                            know whats
                                                            what now,
                                                            is this a
                                                            permanent
                                                            separation
                                                            with UBNT
                                                            of ptp and
                                                            ptmp or is
                                                            this two
                                                            things
                                                            that are
                                                            going to
                                                            converge?
                                                            Other than
                                                            the Ac
                                                            component,
                                                            for a low
                                                            throughput
                                                            demand
                                                            link is
                                                            there any
                                                            major
                                                            benefit of
                                                            going to
                                                            the AC
                                                            over the
                                                            M5 in
                                                            terms of
                                                            performance?
                                                            (future
                                                            demand is
                                                            a factor
                                                            as well)
                                                            Also
                                                            considering the
                                                            epmp,
                                                            goods,
                                                            bads
                                                            uglies
                                                            between
                                                            the three
                                                            products
                                                            there?
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