I mean for the path redundancy On April 16, 2015 2:31:27 PM AKDT, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote: >OSPF > >On April 16, 2015 1:46:50 PM AKDT, Sterling Jacobson ><sterl...@avative.net> wrote: >>Which isn’t really good for redundancy on fixed IP assignments >(whether >>they be DHCP or PPPoE) because a break in the traffic near the site >>would require a redundant connection near the site to carry the >minimal >>/24 or larger public block. >> >>Or you resort to temporary NAT, or re-assignment. >> >> >> >>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:28 AM >>To: af >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers >> >>Terminating PPPoE at the tower doesn't really give you much advantage >>over DHCP as far as using limited IP space more efficiently though, >>you're still going to have to assign a subnet to each tower, more or >>less the same as you would with DHCP. if the goal is to use limited IP >>space more efficiently, you really need to centralize PPPoE so you can >>use the same IP pool for everything. >> >>On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Mike Hammett >><af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>Just enable the PPPoE server on the routers already at your towers. >> >> >>----- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>http://www.ics-il.com >> >>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>________________________________ >>From: "Eric Muehleisen" ><ericm...@gmail.com<mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> >>To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:06:36 AM >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers >>PPPoE auth is broadcast. This will require a L2 path back to you PPPoE >>server (BRAS). This is a deal breaker for many. Overhead is minimal. >>There will be a some broadcast chatter on your L2 subnet. This can be >>filtered a number of ways and usually not a concern. >> >>On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm >><thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>pppoe has been discussed quite often as a solution for limited IP >>space. Could someone give a breakdown of the required components from >>the edge of the network to the customer and the required topology? >>My understanding, which is probably wrong, is a client on the network >>connects, the device gets an IP, normally DHCP that can communicate >all >>the way back to the pppoe server (what exactly is this) >>The credentials are provided and a pppoe session is established, all >>traffic flows through the pppoe tunnel and exits at the edge of the >>network >>the tunnel is essentially a vpn tunnel? there are overheads that need >>to be accounted for? >>Where is the public IP actually at? is it assigned as essentially a >/32 >>at the customer end of the tunnel? >> >>How does the client device know where the pppoe server is, is this >>provided in the DHCP response? >> >>I know my understanding of this is probably totally way off, but I >>would love to know more, accurately >> >>On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) >><li...@packetflux.com<mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote: >> >>Which is why we played with it. In the end, it seemed that the amount >>of support hassles with pppoe wasn't worth the hassle. But, this was >>a while ago and pppoe has grown up a lot, so my opinion is probably >not >>valid anymore. >>On Apr 15, 2015 5:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" >><af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>There are reasons to have PPPoE other than IP address assignment. >> >> >>----- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>http://www.ics-il.com >> >>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>________________________________ >>From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" >><li...@packetflux.com<mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> >>To: "af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:02:50 AM >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers >> >>(WISP HAT ON) >>We have a subnet (or a couple of subnets, as sites have grown) at each >>tower, and an public IP statically assigned to each customer. The >>radio gets a managment address out of 172.[16-31].x.x which >corresponds >>to the public IP address. >>No DHCP anywhere, no PPPoE. >>But again, we have an /18 and a /19 assigned to us from back before >NAT >>really existed and DHCP implementations from the early '90's kinda >>sucked. We've played with PPPoE and DHCP, but kinda have been >spoiled >>by the simplicity and reliability of a statically numbered network. >>-forrest >> >>On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Josh Reynolds >><j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote: >>For those of you currently providing public/routed ips to customers? >>What is your topology like and delivery method? >> >>Looking at doing a few things, have considered a few options, and >>wanted to look out there and see what other people are doing. >> >>Thanks >> >>-- >>Josh Reynolds >>CIO, SPITwSPOTS >>www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> >> >> >> >>-- >>Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>forre...@imach.com<mailto:forre...@imach.com> | >>http://www.packetflux.com<http://www.packetflux.com/> >>[https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/linkedin.png]<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >>[https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/facebook.png] >><http://facebook.com/packetflux> >>[https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/twitter.png] >><http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > >-- >Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
