This sounds like the two basic types of packet switching which are usually 
called store-and-forward, and cut-through.  Store-and-forward buffers the whole 
packet, and forwards it to the destination MAC if the FCS matches, and drops 
the packet if an error occurs.  Cut-through reduces latency by waiting only 
until the destination MAC is received and then starting to forward bits as they 
are received, but the result can be forwarding a corrupted packet.  Then 
there’s a hub which is just a repeater and doesn’t even need to look at the 
destination MAC to know where to send the data.

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:17 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or pass-through

Look closer to the specs:-

  a.. Store-and-Forward Switching Mechanism
and the dip switch is labeled "Transmission mode"..

This media converter has a 'switch chip' and as such can do actual store and 
forward of frames (must have some sort of hardware memory buffer in it).


So, Dennis's explanation  would be correct on what this feature is..

BTW, FYI, not all media converters are built the same, we have seen some media 
converters which will struggle in passing over a certain amount of packets.... 
once you put this one in service, you might want to check that you are able to 
get full thru-put on it.

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but TDM and DS3 is kinda dead in 2015 isn't it?


Do you think that all of the Telcom (Phone Calls processing) Network in the US 
is converted over to IP ? 

Yes, these are old standards, but still in heavy use, predominantly by 
Telephony networks 

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:)


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 



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  From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:05:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or pass-through


  I just left the office but I'm 99% sure it's this one: 

  Aaxeon/Antaria
  
http://www.antaira.com/products/media-converters/unmanaged-converters/10-100-1000tx-to-1000fx/fcu-3002a-sc-s1?pid=2211


  I guess fiber to fiber might make sense (not sure why unless you're making it 
like a switch to extend distance) but TDM and DS3 is kinda dead in 2015 isn't 
it?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Josh, the world is bigger than what you can see with your eyes ... 
(Grasshopper) :)

    I was asking for make = mfg of the media converter you are working with...

    and yes, contrary to popular belief you may have Media converters come in 
many flavors... copper to fiber, fiber to fiber , TDM to fiber (e.g. DS3 to 
fiber).... etc etc etc..

    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 



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      From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:31:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or pass-through


      One fiber port and one copper port.  Is that not the very definition of 
media converter?  What are the other options?


      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373

      On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        What make is the Media converter ? (don't assume the terminology / 
label implied meaning to be what one thinks it is  )

        (e.g. here is explanation of the features from one mfg of media 
converters about the options on their product  
https://www.perle.com/supportfiles/link-passthrough.shtml )

        Faisal Imtiaz
        Snappy Internet & Telecom
        7266 SW 48 Street
        Miami, FL 33155
        Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


        Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 



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          From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:21:20 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or 
pass-through


          Well the dip switch is for store and forward OR pass through.  That 
being the case, it doesn't sound like pass through would follow the link state 
of anything. 

          I don't remember seeing an option on the dip switches for following 
link state.


          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Dennis,   I think you are mistaking the 'pass thru' feature on a 
'media converter' with something else ....

            Josh, it pays to look up the actual vendor documentation for that 
media converter to determine exactly what is the 'pass-thru' feature....

            Most of the media converters I have seen, the pass-thru feature is 
a feature that passes thru link down condition to the other side... (i.e. if 
the physical link is down on one side, it will bring the link down on the other 
side too ).

            Regards


            Faisal Imtiaz
            Snappy Internet & Telecom
            7266 SW 48 Street
            Miami, FL 33155
            Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


            Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
[email protected] 



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              From: "Dennis Burgess" <[email protected]>
              To: [email protected]
              Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:25:24 PM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or 
pass-through


              That would be media status.  Store and forward vs pass thought 
allows it to change data speeds. i..e a gige fiber and a 100 meg Ethernet or 
vice versa by storing packets and then forwarding as needed.  If you have gigE 
fiber and gig Ethernet, pass though should be preferred.  



              From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
              Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:15 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or 
pass-through



              Usually on media converters, it has to do with whether or not to 
pass the Ethernet status through the fiber.  In other words, if the DIP switch 
is in one setting and there is a loss of connection on the Ethernet then the 
fiber stays up.  In other DIP setting, an Ethernet status of down will also 
result in the fiber link itself going down.  Sometimes it’s the other way 
around where when there is a fiber outage, it determines whether or not to drop 
the Ethernet port (this way is more common come to think of it).



              From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
              Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:44 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: [AFMUG] Media converter - store and forward or 
pass-through



              I've got a dip switch that's defaulted to pass-through.  I know 
most switches are store and forward and that's about the extent of my knowledge 
on this.  What are the differences between them?



              Googling pass through transmission mode is all about HIV and 
Ebola?




              Josh Luthman
              Office: 937-552-2340
              Direct: 937-552-2343
              1100 Wayne St
              Suite 1337
              Troy, OH 45373









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