Electric and steam engines develop 100% torque from zero RPM. ICE require some time (and RPM) to develop torque. Diesel engines are generally better in this regard, but the new ecoboost engines from Ford have some pretty impressive torque curves in spite of relatively small displacement.

bp
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On 5/5/2015 12:25 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
All these cars are beyond my means, so it's all theory to me.

I'm told the electric cars have full power instantly whereas an ICE needs to build up RPM's over a number of seconds. So the electric sports car should be a fun ride I would think.


On 5/5/2015 3:13 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

+1 They are very cool to drive … I know there’s other options in that price range … I’ve really been looking also at Porsche Cayenne lately … not super fuel efficient though (but not bad).

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:38 PM
*To:* [email protected]
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Have you driven one?

Until you do, you probably won’t understand.

Plus a car that can have software features added simply from an over the air update is cool.

I’d buy one if I was home enough to drive it and had the extra cash (kids are expensive!).

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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:59 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

What is a good reason to like a Tesla? I think it looks cool and it is a neat idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more
    arbitrary reason to not like a Tesla.

    -Steve D

    On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        100k for a toy car?


        Go faster with a GTR.

        Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.

        Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)

        Want better mileage on your electric car?  Leaf or something
        of the sort.

        These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Tesla is still a toy though. Even with all its, any
            luxury car is a better value.  When there are
            alternatives or the next gen battery hits the market, not
            just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a
            carbon-iron or carbon anything, then a long range
            electric has real value.  Out in Arizona at 80mph or
            slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather and even
            hotter on the open highway, with air-conditioning, I’d be
            surprised to see their biggest battery last 200 miles.

            Rory

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
            *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

            Tesla S is cool.  Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not
            be stuck for 8 is better. Once they get more charging
            stations (at least in major cities, come on!) I can see
            it being available to way more people.


            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Wow… that is really interesting … I looked at putting
            solar at my house before and the number of panels, the
            cost etc didn’t make it worthwhile.  I was quoted $25k in
            panels at the time … think I may revisit though and get
            additional quotes ;)

            BTW – a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it… I’m
            seriously considering one now as well

            *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
            *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM


            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

            I don’t know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw
            per pack is 2kW continuous, 3.3kW peak.

            http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall

            Chris Wright

            Network Administrator

            Velociter Wireless

            209-838-1221 x115 <tel:209-838-1221%20x115>

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
            *Bill Prince
            *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

            I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying
            in the neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA
            batteries, so this would be a serious consideration.

            I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how
            many charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.

            bp

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            On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:

                I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for
                $3500.. �that�s a decent price.

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