I have owned my car for approx 14 years. I recently calculated that over that 14 years, it has cost me well over $100k, with maintenance and fuel. Were I to outright buy a Tesla (rather than lease) here's what I would expect:

At least 14 years of ownership.
Almost zero maintenance.  (Not much more than tires...)
Free refueling at any Supercharger.
Minimal cost refueling at home.

That said, I would strongly consider leasing in order to get the latest thing periodically. Also, you can't ignore the future value of money.

Disclaimer: I am a very happy TSLA owner, and a very unhappy not-Tesla Model whatever owner. (So far!)

On 05/05/2015 10:04 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think "it looks cool and is a neat idea" are pretty much the only reasons to like a Tesla.... which aren't bad reasons if you have a spare $100k sitting around. But if you're going to spend $100k on a car, there are so many others I'd rather have...

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    What is a good reason to like a Tesla?  I think it looks cool and
    it is a neat idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more
        arbitrary reason to not like a Tesla.

        -Steve D

        On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            100k for a toy car?

            Go faster with a GTR.
            Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
            Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
            Want better mileage on your electric car?  Leaf or
            something of the sort.

            These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.


            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                Tesla is still a toy though.  Even with all its, any
                luxury car is a better value.  When there are
                alternatives or the next gen battery hits the market,
                not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has
                but a carbon-iron or carbon anything, then a long
                range electric has real value.  Out in Arizona at
                80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree
                weather and even hotter on the open highway, with
                air-conditioning, I’d be surprised to see their
                biggest battery last 200 miles.

                Rory

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

                Tesla S is cool.  Being able to drive 3-4 hours and
                not be stuck for 8 is better.  Once they get more
                charging stations (at least in major cities, come on!)
                I can see it being available to way more people.


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                Wow… that is really interesting … I looked at putting
                solar at my house before and the number of panels, the
                cost etc didn’t make it worthwhile.  I was quoted $25k
                in panels at the time … think I may revisit though and
                get additional quotes ;)

                BTW – a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it… I’m
                seriously considering one now as well

                *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
                *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM


                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

                I don’t know how many cycles it can handle, but max
                draw per pack is 2kW continuous, 3.3kW peak.

                http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall

                Chris Wright

                Network Administrator

                Velociter Wireless

                209-838-1221 x115 <tel:209-838-1221%20x115>

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
                *Bill Prince
                *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

                I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're
                paying in the neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh
                with SLA batteries, so this would be a serious
                consideration.

                I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and
                how many charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.

                bp

                <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:

                    I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for
                    $3500.. �that�s a decent price.

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