I did a Nanobeam ptp.  I'm happy.  In the middle of nowhere.

If there's noise then do something else.  I like the force110 ptp.

Josh Luthman
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On May 7, 2015 10:49 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I'm interested in hearing it. I'm upgrading my network, using the NBM5
> for a lot of tower to tower shots.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>
>  It will also change a bit depending on what channel width you're
> using... 10mhz will gain you a few db over 20mhz, etc.
>
> I'll generally go to a larger antenna on anything over 5-6 miles these
> days... actually I won't use NanoBridges for PtP links at all anymore, but
> that's another story.
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  I'm thinking they may do the same with the tx power as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>> You did account for the fact that Ubnt antenna gain specs usually add an
>> extra 2-3db "in taxes" right?.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]>
>> *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected]>
>> *Date: *Fri, 8 May 2015 01:59:02 +0000
>> *To: *<[email protected]>
>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected]
>>  *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Accounting for 3dB "gain" added for MIMO and 18dBm tx power at full
>> modulation makes the math work out for what I'm actually seeing.
>>
>> Problem is I'm still only at MCS 12, which should be 22dBm tx.
>>
>> I think they add 3dB to every number on their datasheets accounting for
>> MIMO, which doesn't work out quite as nicely when doing the math.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:52 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>> Make sure you account for Tx power at full modulation vs. lowest
>> modulation. Always calculate based on full modulation.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:51:49 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>> 
>> I thought so as well. Could be he's talking about the gain being +3dB on
>> the data sheets assuming for the gain due to MIMO.
>>
>> At 12 miles I get a -71. The math shows -61.
>>
>> Most of my NBM5 links are similar. I get much better signal with my old
>> 802.11a + PacWireless grids, usually right on the math.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* John Woodfield <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:39 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>> I thought you gained 2db because of MIMO?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 9:35pm
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5
>>
>>  Well you're losing 3db because of MIMO.  At least 1db from what the
>> antennas say.  What's the signal now?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On May 7, 2015 9:32 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've got a few links out there with the NBM5, longest is around 12
>>> miles.
>>>
>>> According to the math I should get a decent shot at 24 miles, but
>>> according to that same math the NBM5 should have higher signal in every
>>> single link I've done.
>>>
>>> My question here is what is the longest link you've done with the NBM5
>>> 25 and what is the actual gain on these units since they don't seem to
>>> actually gain 25 as they're suppose to.
>>>
>>> I'm not opposed to using a Rocket and larger dish, just trying to
>>> see what the actual limits to the device are and what the actual gain is
>>> for math.
>>>
>>> Currently I've got the 24 mile shot with a 29 and 26dBi grids, decent,
>>> but still using 2008 MT hardware. I need more speed for growth.
>>>
>>
>>
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