The problem with the NanoBeam/PowerBeam being the lack of lower frequencies. The Force 110 just seems to me like the all around better option for PtP links at this point.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: > The Powerbeam/Nanobeam 400 has a lot more power than the NanoBridge. > I’d use that instead. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:58 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > I did a Nanobeam ptp. I'm happy. In the middle of nowhere. > > If there's noise then do something else. I like the force110 ptp. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On May 7, 2015 10:49 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm interested in hearing it. I'm upgrading my network, using the NBM5 for > a lot of tower to tower shots. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > > *To:* af <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:38 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > It will also change a bit depending on what channel width you're using... > 10mhz will gain you a few db over 20mhz, etc. > > I'll generally go to a larger antenna on anything over 5-6 miles these > days... actually I won't use NanoBridges for PtP links at all anymore, but > that's another story. > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'm thinking they may do the same with the tx power as well. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* [email protected] > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:29 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > You did account for the fact that Ubnt antenna gain specs usually add an > extra 2-3db "in taxes" right?. > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> > > *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected]> > > *Date: *Fri, 8 May 2015 01:59:02 +0000 > > *To: *<[email protected]> > > *ReplyTo: *[email protected] > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > Thanks. > > Accounting for 3dB "gain" added for MIMO and 18dBm tx power at full > modulation makes the math work out for what I'm actually seeing. > > > > Problem is I'm still only at MCS 12, which should be 22dBm tx. > > > > I think they add 3dB to every number on their datasheets accounting for > MIMO, which doesn't work out quite as nicely when doing the math. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:52 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > Make sure you account for Tx power at full modulation vs. lowest > modulation. Always calculate based on full modulation. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:51:49 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > I thought so as well. Could be he's talking about the gain being +3dB on > the data sheets assuming for the gain due to MIMO. > > > > At 12 miles I get a -71. The math shows -61. > > Most of my NBM5 links are similar. I get much better signal with my old > 802.11a + PacWireless grids, usually right on the math. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* John Woodfield <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:39 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > > > I thought you gained 2db because of MIMO? > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 9:35pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 > > Well you're losing 3db because of MIMO. At least 1db from what the > antennas say. What's the signal now? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On May 7, 2015 9:32 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've got a few links out there with the NBM5, longest is around 12 miles. > > According to the math I should get a decent shot at 24 miles, but > according to that same math the NBM5 should have higher signal in every > single link I've done. > > My question here is what is the longest link you've done with the NBM5 25 > and what is the actual gain on these units since they don't seem to > actually gain 25 as they're suppose to. > > I'm not opposed to using a Rocket and larger dish, just trying to see what > the actual limits to the device are and what the actual gain is for math. > > Currently I've got the 24 mile shot with a 29 and 26dBi grids, decent, but > still using 2008 MT hardware. I need more speed for growth. > > > > > >
