For what it's worth, I've noticed AutoSync weirdness as well on PMP100 900MHz 
APs and it didn't seem to have anything to do with Packetflux gear.  It's 
occurred with APs timed by Sync Pipes but also when timed by just SM timing 
ports.
Occasionally if the AP were to lose it's timing port sync, the algorithm seemed 
to get 'confused'.  The Event Log would list timing port sync losses.  It would 
also list events stating that it was receiving sync via the power port which 
was impossible.  The GUI would indicate 'receiving sync - power port' when that 
wasn't even a possibility, and the strange part - when timing port sync did 
return we were left with an AP with it's SMs dropping session and the AP GUI 
still showing 'receiving sync - power port' incorrectly.  
An AP reboot would resolve both the intermittent SM and the AP GUI display 
symptom completely for us until whatever triggered this state occurred again.  
There is no source of power port sync at these type of sites.  As a workaround, 
I've set APs exhibiting this symptom to 'Remote AP' instead of 'Standard AP' to 
remove the power port as a possible sync source.    If I remember correctly, 
that makes me not able to retrieve GPS stats when we're using a sync pipe, but 
should prevent the AP from freaking out if the timing pulse gets interrupted.

Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 04:18:19 +0000
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

Yes, the 110 PTP does have a built in GPS.
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> wrote:
Does the 110PTP have a GPS built in?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 8, 2015, at 7:16 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
<[email protected]> wrote:


  
    
  
  
    If it has anything to do with the issue I brought up about the 3GHz
    450 going nuts and the APs saying they're losing sync briefly while
    the SyncInjector shows ZERO events for 1PPS active for months...
    It's NOT the damn SyncInjectors! It's not even surge suppressors in
    the path. I have observed exactly the same problems on APs with
    SyncPipes. There's something busted with AutoSync and/or LBT on
    3GHz. And when AutoSync changes sources (on all bands), I get
    dropped sessions for every SM that's moving traffic, which is not
    supposed to happen. So I have no reason to suspect any PacketFlux
    gear is at fault here.

    

    That said, they are working hard on 13.4 for Canopy and they will
    being looking into this soon after. And I'm told the 2.4.3 release
    for ePMP will be a fairly big step forward for features and fixes.
    It was really cool that we got the 110PTP radio as a 10 SM Lite AP
    with 2.4.2 as well.

    

    On 5/8/2015 4:48 PM, Forrest Christian
      (List Account) wrote:

    
    
      
        I'll let others speak to the stability (as a couple already
          have).

          

        
        A few months ago there was an issue with a mutual customer
          of mine and cambium's which was having sync problems with an
          epmp radio.   To date, I don't know if the problem was with
          the epmp, or with the injector, or with a gps lock, or
          whatever.       I can't say that sync is a perfect thing -
          from time to time, gps modules act weird, injectors don't
          inject, and AP's don't work right - no matter which product
          you have.  When sync does bad things, it behaves badly.  For
          all I know, in this case my product *might* have been at
          fault.  Or not.  It's not important for the rest of the
          story....

          

        
        In any case, somehow this problem morphed into a statement
          that somehow the SyncInjectors had some sort of systemic issue
          which lots of wisps were experiencing.   I was not
          particularly amused by this, particularly since I had no
          communication from cambium at all in relation to this....
          After some back and forth with my internal contact at cambium
          I was informed that a) that they were tracking some
          *potential* issue with external sync (usually with a
          syncinjector) on the ePMP and b) that they hadn't had the time
          to figure out if it was packetflux-specific or a general issue
          yet, and that if they determined it was related to my product
          they'd contact me back.  So far, no call back, and I haven't
          heard any more similar complaints - and I've had interactions
          with a lot of people who use this regularly with ePMP with no
          known issues.  I also haven't seen anything sync-related in
          the release notes since that time.

          

        
        -forrest

        
        

        
      
      

        On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Tyson
          Burris @ Internet Communications Inc <[email protected]> wrote:

          
            
              
                General question here.  I saw
                  something in the Cambium forum questioning the
                  reliability of Packet flux Sync Injectors.
                 
                If you use them, are your GPS syncs
                  stable and is power output reliable on the 450 and
                  ePMP gear? 
                 
                 
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