Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle internet
with that?
Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? I bet
somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it.
On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and selling an
> idea or a product.  Leading to later in life becoming politicians or
> starting alarm companies.  But I digress.
>
> I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and 2 young
> Mormons knocked on our door.  Turns out they didn’t know how to give their
> speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner.
>
>
>  *From:* TJ Trout <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
>
>  They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will...
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate?  If they had more
>> food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with their
>> down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors?  Well, they have more Internet
>> than they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch porn?)
>> So why waste the excess Internet when others are in need?  Does McDonalds
>> Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving your uneaten
>> fries to the homeless?
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
>>
>>   If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, they
>> will call it “theft of service”.  Criminal theft of service.  Federal code
>> specifically speaks to this.  Just piggybacking on the same idea with the
>> verbiage.
>>
>> TWC says:
>> It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to assist others
>> to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for criminal
>> penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist others to
>> steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of distributing
>> "pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to make
>> unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of one's
>> wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their modems
>> and uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of
>> services offered over a cable system.
>>
>> And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted:
>>
>> http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/
>>
>> As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them, it is
>> intended to trigger a guilty conscience.  They vow to be honest.  This is
>> intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior.
>>
>>  *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
>>
>>   Not for me.  I would avoid the whole theft of service approach.  I
>> think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS folks
>> really are easily scared.
>>
>> Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will result in
>> disconnection of service.  That doesn’t mean it is a crime.
>>
>> The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone within
>> range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows them
>> access to your network and router on the trusted side of your firewall
>> making it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law
>> enforcement to blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet
>> via your IP address.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
>>
>>   Brett, Ken  does this wording work better?
>>
>> 5)    Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of
>> purchasing service for their own house  is a crime called “Theft of
>> Service”.  You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own
>> service as well.
>>
>>
>>
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