Getting into the middle of conversations without reading the whole chain is dangerous but ignorance never stopped me. *enlightened - *having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook. I don't think being religious disqualifies you from being enlightened. Don't get me wrong, I am not offended, I just differ in opinion that more enlightenment means less religion. I know plenty of people who meet all of the above and are additionally, quite religious.
And of course, during this discourse, if I have typed something that has offended you I genuinely don't care. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Utah isnt alone. Most central and east Texas is "below" the bible > belt if you know what I mean, nudge nudge...west Texas a bit more > enlightened...(ducking under my hard hat)...mid 1990s while installing > antennas on a tower for Cedar Hill ISD I radioed down ask which campus I > was shooting at > ..." the one next to white church steeple. ..." " ahem...I count > 123456789..10 steeples just in front.." and I think they were all First > Baptist Churches! !!! > > Jaime Solorza > On May 27, 2015 8:04 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work. >> >> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >> >> Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >> >> >> LOL! >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> You guys are a riot and I know God is laughing. .hell He made the >>> duckbill platypus...now thats funny. We had on business client install a >>> ptp from his business to his friends house. They went from 6 users to >>> 15....it showed up on cpe dhcp list and speeds slowed down. I throttled >>> them to 1mbps after two calls from us. He called to complain. .then >>> threatened to cancel. We fired him and shut down LAN port. He called me a >>> few choice words...oh well...next...I should have asked if I could use his >>> wife for a few days.... >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> On May 26, 2015 6:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination. >>>> >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> Josh Reynolds >>>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com >>>> >>>> On 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>> >>>> Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle >>>> internet with that? >>>> Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? I >>>> bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it. >>>> On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and >>>>> selling an idea or a product. Leading to later in life becoming >>>>> politicians or starting alarm companies. But I digress. >>>>> >>>>> I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and 2 >>>>> young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to give >>>>> their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* TJ Trout <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>> >>>>> They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will... >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate? If they had >>>>>> more food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with >>>>>> their >>>>>> down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors? Well, they have more Internet >>>>>> than they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch >>>>>> porn?) >>>>>> So why waste the excess Internet when others are in need? Does >>>>>> McDonalds Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving >>>>>> your uneaten fries to the homeless? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>> >>>>>> If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, they >>>>>> will call it “theft of service”. Criminal theft of service. Federal >>>>>> code >>>>>> specifically speaks to this. Just piggybacking on the same idea with the >>>>>> verbiage. >>>>>> >>>>>> TWC says: >>>>>> It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to assist >>>>>> others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for >>>>>> criminal >>>>>> penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist others >>>>>> to >>>>>> steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of distributing >>>>>> "pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to >>>>>> make >>>>>> unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of >>>>>> one's >>>>>> wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their modems >>>>>> and uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of >>>>>> services offered over a cable system. >>>>>> >>>>>> And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/ >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them, it is >>>>>> intended to trigger a guilty conscience. They vow to be honest. This is >>>>>> intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>> >>>>>> Not for me. I would avoid the whole theft of service approach. I >>>>>> think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS folks >>>>>> really are easily scared. >>>>>> >>>>>> Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will >>>>>> result in disconnection of service. That doesn’t mean it is a crime. >>>>>> >>>>>> The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone >>>>>> within range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows >>>>>> them access to your network and router on the trusted side of your >>>>>> firewall >>>>>> making it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law >>>>>> enforcement to blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet >>>>>> via your IP address. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>> >>>>>> Brett, Ken does this wording work better? >>>>>> >>>>>> 5) Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of >>>>>> purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of >>>>>> Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own >>>>>> service as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>
