The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

LOL!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

  You guys are a riot and I know God is laughing. .hell He made the duckbill 
platypus...now thats funny.  We had on business client install a ptp from his 
business to his friends house.  They went from 6 users to 15....it showed up on 
cpe dhcp list and speeds slowed down.  I throttled them to 1mbps after two 
calls from us.   He called to complain. .then threatened to cancel. We fired 
him and shut down LAN port.  He called me a few choice words...oh 
well...next...I should have asked if I could use his wife for a few days....

  Jaime Solorza

  On May 26, 2015 6:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination.

    ;)

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

      Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle internet 
with that? 
      Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? I 
bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it.

      On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and selling an 
idea or a product.  Leading to later in life becoming politicians or starting 
alarm companies.  But I digress.

        I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and 2 
young Mormons knocked on our door.  Turns out they didn’t know how to give 
their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner.


        From: TJ Trout 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

        They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will...

        On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

          But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate?  If they had more 
food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with their 
down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors?  Well, they have more Internet than 
they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch porn?)  So why 
waste the excess Internet when others are in need?  Does McDonalds Arctic 
Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving your uneaten fries to the 
homeless?


          From: Chuck McCown 
          Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

          If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, they 
will call it “theft of service”.  Criminal theft of service.  Federal code 
specifically speaks to this.  Just piggybacking on the same idea with the 
verbiage.

          TWC says:
          It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to assist 
others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for criminal 
penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist others to 
steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of distributing 
"pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to make 
unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of one's 
wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their modems and 
uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of services 
offered over a cable system.

          And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted:
          
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/

          As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them, it is 
intended to trigger a guilty conscience.  They vow to be honest.  This is 
intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior.  

          From: Ken Hohhof 
          Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

          Not for me.  I would avoid the whole theft of service approach.  I 
think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS folks 
really are easily scared.

          Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will 
result in disconnection of service.  That doesn’t mean it is a crime.

          The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone 
within range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows them 
access to your network and router on the trusted side of your firewall making 
it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law enforcement to 
blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet via your IP address.


          From: Chuck McCown 
          Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

          Brett, Ken  does this wording work better?

          5)    Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of 
purchasing service for their own house  is a crime called “Theft of Service”.  
You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own service as well.  




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