Changes are coming... I (as much as you guys, believe me) are hoping this makes 
things better!

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP - 200

It remembers you for a while.

I have a better idea. So, my support login gets me into the community site as 
well. Why can't my support login also get me all the spec sheets I want? :)

On 6/5/2015 1:32 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> The pain comes from filling out the form 100 times.
> Couldn't the site send us a cookie so it knows we've already filled 
> the form?
>
>> Also, Ken (and others), to save you the extremely arduous and 
>> devilishly painful effort of filling out a form *gasp!* to get it...
>> here's the spec sheet.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:58 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>> powersupply
>>
>> Ken -
>>
>> There's some discussion and info on the C3VoIP-200 here:
>>
>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/WISP-Business/C3VoIP-Gateways
>> -Models/td-p/39723/page/2
>>
>>
>> There will be a webinar on it on Tuesday, June 9th, also, so you can 
>> ask questions live: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/company/webinars
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>> powersupply
>>
>> Model just released has 802.11b/g/n with 2 external antennas, but yes 
>> includes VoIP.
>>
>> I don't see a user guide on the Cambium website.  I may have to order 
>> one and play with it.  We currently use Cisco ATAs in bridge mode 
>> ahead of the customer router and give them a private IP completely 
>> separate from the router.  I'm not clear on whether this device will 
>> work in a similar manner.
>> Also our managed CPE routers are all Mikrotik and remotely managed 
>> via Winbox, I assume this is probably OpenWRT based, we have had 
>> nothing but bad experiences with every brand of home routers and I 
>> would approach any new device with skepticism. You often don’t know 
>> you've deployed a bunch of crap routers for a year or more when they 
>> start failing.
>>
>> That said, consolidating the POE, router and ATA functions in one box 
>> would simplify the rats nest of wires.  And the industry is moving 
>> toward ISPs providing a WiFi router, DSL and cable is pretty much all 
>> that way.
>>
>> If everything else was good, and the price was right, I guess I 
>> wouldn't sweat every customer having a phone jack on their "modem"
>> even if 95% didn't use it.  Could save a future truck roll.  Assuming 
>> remote management.
>> Depends on how much cost it adds.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>> powersupply
>>
>>> Mark, I guess you could look at the C3VOIP200 since it includes 
>>> Canopy/ePMP compatible POE on the WAN port.
>> I so wish they made a version of it with WIFI and without VOIP.
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the 
>>> power supply."
>>>
>>> 9/10 times, the customer will argue with me that it doesn't run to 
>>> anything because they can't find it in their mess of wires. Or that 
>>> it runs to their router (because the Router power cord looks the 
>>> same
>>> size)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/5/2015 10:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>> Interesting.   I always found it pretty easy to troubleshoot.
>>>>
>>>> On the back of the router find the 3” long flat black cable that 
>>>> goes into
>>>> a 1” square black box.   Is it plugged into the WAN port on the 
>>>> router?
>>>> Oh -
>>>> you plugged that flat black cord into the wall jack?  Swap the ends
>>>> - the
>>>> flat black cord goes in the router.   Find the cord plugged into 
>>>> the  1”
>>>> box
>>>> and follow that to the wall jack.  Is it plugged in securely at 
>>>> both ends?
>>>> Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the 
>>>> power supply.  Is it plugged in and the green light on?  No?  Plug 
>>>> it
>>>> in.   If
>>>> the
>>>> green light is on unplug the power supply and tell me if the light 
>>>> goes out
>>>> right away.   It fades away slowly?  Then there is a break in the wire
>>>> between the power supply and the equipment outside?  Oh - your 
>>>> husband wacked that wire with his hedge trimmer?  Yeah - that might 
>>>> possibly be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been using the Tycon's for quite a while as well. We found 
>>>>> it next to impossible to trouble shoot the Cambium power supply 
>>>>> with a customer.
>>>>> They could never comprehend what it was, and always tried to plug 
>>>>> in a PC to the POE Jumper.  The Tycon's are nice, because you can 
>>>>> describe the white box, with 2 plugs on one side (AC and LAN), and 
>>>>> one plug on the other (poe).
>>>>> Is there a yellow or green light, The Cable from outside plugs 
>>>>> into the end with only 1 plug.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/2015 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>> I never used it anyway, prefer Tycon POE-24iR-CI.  And yes, a 
>>>>>> patch cord, but those come in various lengths and colors rather 
>>>>>> than the short little stub which is limiting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:37 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>>>>> power supply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is anyone else unhappy with Cambium’s decision to EOL the 
>>>>>> traditional power supply?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The replacement part is a Ubiquiti or ePMP brick style.   It costs
>>>>>> more,
>>>>>> does not include the power cord, and requires an additional CAT5 
>>>>>> jumper cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the current supply has it’s issues (hard to plug into a 
>>>>>> power
>>>>>> strip) it’s simple to troubleshoot over the phone with a customer 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> limited ways to screw it up.   I think this is going to create more
>>>>>> ‘miswire’ service calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>
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