I think I managed to get my browser to just auto-fill it with Cookie Monster 
and Atul’s email address.

Mark


> On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Changes are coming... I (as much as you guys, believe me) are hoping this 
> makes things better!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 1:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP - 200
> 
> It remembers you for a while.
> 
> I have a better idea. So, my support login gets me into the community site as 
> well. Why can't my support login also get me all the spec sheets I want? :)
> 
> On 6/5/2015 1:32 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The pain comes from filling out the form 100 times.
>> Couldn't the site send us a cookie so it knows we've already filled 
>> the form?
>> 
>>> Also, Ken (and others), to save you the extremely arduous and 
>>> devilishly painful effort of filling out a form *gasp!* to get it...
>>> here's the spec sheet.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:58 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>> powersupply
>>> 
>>> Ken -
>>> 
>>> There's some discussion and info on the C3VoIP-200 here:
>>> 
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/WISP-Business/C3VoIP-Gateways
>>> -Models/td-p/39723/page/2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There will be a webinar on it on Tuesday, June 9th, also, so you can 
>>> ask questions live: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/company/webinars
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:00 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>> powersupply
>>> 
>>> Model just released has 802.11b/g/n with 2 external antennas, but yes 
>>> includes VoIP.
>>> 
>>> I don't see a user guide on the Cambium website.  I may have to order 
>>> one and play with it.  We currently use Cisco ATAs in bridge mode 
>>> ahead of the customer router and give them a private IP completely 
>>> separate from the router.  I'm not clear on whether this device will 
>>> work in a similar manner.
>>> Also our managed CPE routers are all Mikrotik and remotely managed 
>>> via Winbox, I assume this is probably OpenWRT based, we have had 
>>> nothing but bad experiences with every brand of home routers and I 
>>> would approach any new device with skepticism. You often don’t know 
>>> you've deployed a bunch of crap routers for a year or more when they 
>>> start failing.
>>> 
>>> That said, consolidating the POE, router and ATA functions in one box 
>>> would simplify the rats nest of wires.  And the industry is moving 
>>> toward ISPs providing a WiFi router, DSL and cable is pretty much all 
>>> that way.
>>> 
>>> If everything else was good, and the price was right, I guess I 
>>> wouldn't sweat every customer having a phone jack on their "modem"
>>> even if 95% didn't use it.  Could save a future truck roll.  Assuming 
>>> remote management.
>>> Depends on how much cost it adds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matt
>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:43 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>> powersupply
>>> 
>>>> Mark, I guess you could look at the C3VOIP200 since it includes 
>>>> Canopy/ePMP compatible POE on the WAN port.
>>> I so wish they made a version of it with WIFI and without VOIP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> "Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the 
>>>> power supply."
>>>> 
>>>> 9/10 times, the customer will argue with me that it doesn't run to 
>>>> anything because they can't find it in their mess of wires. Or that 
>>>> it runs to their router (because the Router power cord looks the 
>>>> same
>>>> size)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/5/2015 10:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>>> Interesting.   I always found it pretty easy to troubleshoot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the back of the router find the 3” long flat black cable that 
>>>>> goes into
>>>>> a 1” square black box.   Is it plugged into the WAN port on the 
>>>>> router?
>>>>> Oh -
>>>>> you plugged that flat black cord into the wall jack?  Swap the ends
>>>>> - the
>>>>> flat black cord goes in the router.   Find the cord plugged into 
>>>>> the  1”
>>>>> box
>>>>> and follow that to the wall jack.  Is it plugged in securely at 
>>>>> both ends?
>>>>> Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the 
>>>>> power supply.  Is it plugged in and the green light on?  No?  Plug 
>>>>> it
>>>>> in.   If
>>>>> the
>>>>> green light is on unplug the power supply and tell me if the light 
>>>>> goes out
>>>>> right away.   It fades away slowly?  Then there is a break in the wire
>>>>> between the power supply and the equipment outside?  Oh - your 
>>>>> husband wacked that wire with his hedge trimmer?  Yeah - that might 
>>>>> possibly be the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We've been using the Tycon's for quite a while as well. We found 
>>>>>> it next to impossible to trouble shoot the Cambium power supply 
>>>>>> with a customer.
>>>>>> They could never comprehend what it was, and always tried to plug 
>>>>>> in a PC to the POE Jumper.  The Tycon's are nice, because you can 
>>>>>> describe the white box, with 2 plugs on one side (AC and LAN), and 
>>>>>> one plug on the other (poe).
>>>>>> Is there a yellow or green light, The Cable from outside plugs 
>>>>>> into the end with only 1 plug.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/5/2015 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>> I never used it anyway, prefer Tycon POE-24iR-CI.  And yes, a 
>>>>>>> patch cord, but those come in various lengths and colors rather 
>>>>>>> than the short little stub which is limiting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:37 AM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>>>>>> power supply
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So is anyone else unhappy with Cambium’s decision to EOL the 
>>>>>>> traditional power supply?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The replacement part is a Ubiquiti or ePMP brick style.   It costs
>>>>>>> more,
>>>>>>> does not include the power cord, and requires an additional CAT5 
>>>>>>> jumper cable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While the current supply has it’s issues (hard to plug into a 
>>>>>>> power
>>>>>>> strip) it’s simple to troubleshoot over the phone with a customer 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> limited ways to screw it up.   I think this is going to create more
>>>>>>> ‘miswire’ service calls.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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