Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti
> POEs?
>
> Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them?
> Plus they have cool white LEDs?  Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has
> to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X).
>
> One thing you could do is buy a bunch of yellow patch cords and some
> self-adhesive yellow sticky dots.  Hopefully the cavemen can match up the
> yellow cord with the yellow dot.  Or use a dab of hotmelt glue so they
> can’t unplug it.  I know, it still means paying more for something you
> still don’t like as well as the old one.
>
> Maybe if they put in a current indicator LED like the Tycon CI series, we
> find that really helps with troubleshooting over the phone.
>
> I much prefer AC cords to wall warts, but that’s a personal preference.
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
>
> Lol!!!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray...
>>
>>
>> Q: Why is this change happening?
>>
>> A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.
>>
>>
>> Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and
>> fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these
>> silly questions.
>>
>> Q:  Why is it being retired?
>> A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.
>>
>> Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
>> A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.
>>
>> -Steve D
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ray,
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening.
>>>
>>> So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the
>>> cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be over to
>>> "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just
>>> decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to happen.
>>>
>>> With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the
>>> cable from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they
>>> plug the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just leave
>>> it all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together
>>> correctly here's how the conversation goes:
>>>
>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>> client: yes
>>> agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port,
>>> just like it says on the sticker.
>>> client: ok got it plugged in
>>> agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the
>>> port that says "to radio" (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
>>> ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
>>> the tape to remove the cable)
>>> client: ok that's plugged in.
>>> agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
>>> plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
>>> client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.  thanks!
>>>
>>> 4 easy steps to success!
>>>
>>> with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they
>>> unplug everything the labels to put it back are "Gigabit ethernet" and
>>> "gigabit ethernet+power".  so which one is supposed to go where?  well
>>> power seems "better", maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but
>>> even better labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the
>>> cables they usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's
>>> the support call:
>>>
>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>> client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird
>>> brick that my 3 month old son is playing with.
>>> agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable coming
>>> from the outside radio?  plug that into "gigabit ethernet+power".
>>> client: i don't see where that port is.
>>> agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
>>> faint lettering on the brick.
>>> client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
>>> agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
>>> router.
>>> client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6 wires.
>>> agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
>>> client: nope i don't see that.
>>> agent: is there one labeled WAN?
>>> client: yeah
>>> agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that goes
>>> into the "Gigabit ethernet" port on the brick.
>>> client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
>>> agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
>>> client: ok got it.
>>> agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
>>> outlet.
>>> client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
>>> agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
>>> client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this plugging
>>> and unplugging.
>>> agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  "Gigabit
>>> ethernet" goes to WAN port on router, "gigabit ethernet+power" goes to the
>>> cable going outside to the radio.
>>> client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
>>> agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
>>> client: yes
>>> agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
>>> client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
>>> agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
>>> client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
>>> wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?
>>>
>>> catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6 points
>>> of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the power cable,
>>> plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 6 things
>>> to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet cable from
>>> the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat black cable
>>> unplugged?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Check out the details at
>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>
>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of
>>>> $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  Also
>>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures
>>>> AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very cumbersome and
>>>> prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer
>>>> so that we can still buy them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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