and the PoE injector is an ice cream cone?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:44:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i If I were to say that there would be a 12” square flat panel (think about the PMP 450i integrated SM tilted at a 45 degree) for 3.65 GHz available, would there be strong interest in this from this crowd? It would be somewhat more expensive, but would have an integrated 19 dBi flat panel antenna, and the PMP 450i rear housing (but contain the existing 450 SM PCB). Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i We put up a 3.65 connectorized SM with a tan Mars 15x15 panel oriented like a diamond, on some customer’s upscale house that was the exact same color. He was very happy. I just hope he doesn’t tell all his neighbors and they want it too, because it was really too expensive by the time you add up the premium for 3.65 + the premium for connectorized SM + a fairly expensive panel antenna. Also the pigtails just reached, but Cambium is working on that. So an integrated panel would be nice. Although the 3.65 bare SMs work amazingly well at 1-2 miles. From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 12:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i The throughput issues with both bridge mode and especially NAT mode was resolved with 13.2. I think Aaron posted some screenshots while they were working on it. If your linktest gets you say 60x20Mbps, you can get very close to that in bridge mode, NAT mode is slightly less, but it's not as bad as it used to be (was about 10Mbps!). We will probably move to the 450d SM for 5GHz and do away with reflectors and Stingers (sorry Chuck). We are also not doing any more 2.4GHz. We have a single sector up with about 25 SMs on it and it works fine for the most part, but the noise is horrible. And all I want for 3GHz is an integrated panel SM. On 7/15/2015 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah they max out way before the AP does...30meg might be right....but we're not usually selling more than that to one customer. There's room in the market for a higher end SM for sure. On 7/15/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: <blockquote> Higher peak Tx power also brings about higher Tx power at max modulation. Tx power at lowest modulation doesn't mean much to me. Weren't there complains that the 450 SMs were running out of steam at like 30 megabit? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:13:04 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i I can also see why you wouldn't do it. 450d can max out the (FCC) legal EIRP with the available tx power. The higher pps, faster processor, etc are features more useful for an AP. Maybe they keep the cost down a little by NOT doing more with that one. Or phrased another way, maybe 450di would be the ideal CPE except nobody would buy it because the 450d was cheaper. ....just speculation. On 7/15/2015 10:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: <blockquote> *nods* The press release prompted the question. It seems like a 450di would be the ideal 450 CPE. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mangriotis" mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:55:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i These are two different products, addressing different markets. Cambium is hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate, all with the goal of providing solutions to help you guys build your businesses… Check out the Press Release and additional information on the 450i, which was just released this morning: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases Feel free to ask questions about it here, or on our forum site also: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Introducing-Cambium-450i-PMP-and-PTP/m-p/42199#U42199 Matt From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:33 AM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i Am I correct in that these two products were developed independently of each others' advancements? the 450d is just a regular 450 feature set in a dish form factor and the 450i is all of the new capabilities, but in the traditional form factors? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com </blockquote> </blockquote>
