Switching + VLANS != MPLS 

Depends on the load at hte site, but an RB1100AHx2 can put up a pretty good 
fight, otherwise, yes, to CCRs you go. 

Little need to guess, their web site tells you exactly what it does under a few 
different circumstances. Three different packet sizes, three different 
configurations for both bridging and routing. 

Also, though, on smaller than CCR routers, you have to deal with switch chip 
aggregation issues. CCR1009 is a nice little box, though. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:43:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches 



Switches can do Switching/Vlans in Hardware. Esp. the Netonix Switches 
power all kind of stuff. They are outdoor rated and use low power for their 
performance. 
to do 1GBit MPLS you’ll need a CCR which uses at least 5 times the power of a 
Netonix Switch 
and might run into trouble in an outdoor cabinet. And I am not sure it will do 
the job with small 
packets. So it might be more efficient to build switched network segments and 
put MPLS 
routers between segments. 

I see Metrolinq (coming), Siklu, Integra (coming), Mimosas with affordable 
Gigabit performance. 
So the smaller Routerboards wont do the job. 

I like this WS-Mini Switches very much. Mount them to the pole and feed all 
kind of stuff including 
backhaul with short cables. 




Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015 14:20 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches 


I don't use switches in the field, otherwise I'd be pressing for it. There of 
zero use to me. Reduced functionality and reduced performance. No idea why you 
would. 

Radios go directly into an MPLS router (in terms of active electronics anyway). 
I'm not yet to Gino's level of going directly into CE boxes, though I may get 
there. 



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----- Original Message -----


From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:06:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches 

Is there really no gigabit poe switches on the market available now? I just 
really don't understand why there aren't a bunch of types of these on the 
market already! 



I posed the question to Forrest at afmug and he stated that no one wants to be 
locked into a specific switch, really guys? 



Using a midspan injector that requires power cabling to each port, fusing, and 
a rats nest of ethernet cables seems so 2006, do you guys really see it that 
way? 



Yes I know about netonix, but how are they the first to market, it's 2015!??? 

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