Cisco hates WISPs and there are multiple vendors of higher end gear that haven't gone out of their way to crap on us. Juniper, AlcaLuKia, Brocade, etc.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:12:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches It works, so, yeah, I'll use it when it makes sense. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: Friends don't let friends use Cisco. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Jeremy" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:59:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches The Cisco IE4000 does gigabit with POE if you are willing to spend about $4K per switch. Also, as mentioned, this type of POE will not work with most WISP gear without converters. I'd like to see this fabled Netonix switch. I am not aware of a single person ever receiving a DC Netonix, and I have been on the waiting list for months. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Stefan Englhardt < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Switches can do Switching/Vlans in Hardware. Esp. the Netonix Switches power all kind of stuff. They are outdoor rated and use low power for their performance. to do 1GBit MPLS you’ll need a CCR which uses at least 5 times the power of a Netonix Switch and might run into trouble in an outdoor cabinet. And I am not sure it will do the job with small packets. So it might be more efficient to build switched network segments and put MPLS routers between segments. I see Metrolinq (coming), Siklu, Integra (coming), Mimosas with affordable Gigabit performance. So the smaller Routerboards wont do the job. I like this WS-Mini Switches very much. Mount them to the pole and feed all kind of stuff including backhaul with short cables. Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015 14:20 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches I don't use switches in the field, otherwise I'd be pressing for it. There of zero use to me. Reduced functionality and reduced performance. No idea why you would. Radios go directly into an MPLS router (in terms of active electronics anyway). I'm not yet to Gino's level of going directly into CE boxes, though I may get there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:06:16 PM Subject: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches Is there really no gigabit poe switches on the market available now? I just really don't understand why there aren't a bunch of types of these on the market already! I posed the question to Forrest at afmug and he stated that no one wants to be locked into a specific switch, really guys? Using a midspan injector that requires power cabling to each port, fusing, and a rats nest of ethernet cables seems so 2006, do you guys really see it that way? Yes I know about netonix, but how are they the first to market, it's 2015!??? </blockquote>
