The Cisco IE4000 does gigabit with POE if you are willing to spend about
$4K per switch.  Also, as mentioned, this type of POE will not work with
most WISP gear without converters.  I'd like to see this fabled Netonix
switch.  I am not aware of a single person ever receiving a DC Netonix, and
I have been on the waiting list for months.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Stefan Englhardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Switches can do Switching/Vlans in Hardware. Esp. the Netonix Switches
>
> power all kind of stuff. They are outdoor rated and use low power for
> their performance.
>
> to do 1GBit MPLS you’ll need a CCR which uses at least 5 times the power
> of a Netonix Switch
>
> and might run into trouble in an outdoor cabinet. And I am not sure it
> will do the job with small
>
> packets. So it might be more efficient to build switched network segments
> and put MPLS
>
> routers between segments.
>
>
>
> I see Metrolinq (coming), Siklu, Integra (coming), Mimosas with affordable
> Gigabit performance.
>
> So the smaller Routerboards wont do the job.
>
>
>
> I like this WS-Mini Switches very much. Mount them to the pole and feed
> all kind of stuff including
>
> backhaul with short cables.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015 14:20
> *An:* [email protected]
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] DC POE Switches
>
>
>
> I don't use switches in the field, otherwise I'd be pressing for it. There
> of zero use to me. Reduced functionality and reduced performance. No idea
> why you would.
>
> Radios go directly into an MPLS router (in terms of active electronics
> anyway). I'm not yet to Gino's level of going directly into CE boxes,
> though I may get there.
>
>
>
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>
> *From: *"TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:06:16 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] DC POE Switches
>
> Is there really no gigabit poe switches on the market available now? I
> just really don't understand why there aren't a bunch of types of these on
> the market already!
>
>
>
> I posed the question to Forrest at afmug and he stated that no one wants
> to be locked into a specific switch, really guys?
>
>
>
> Using a midspan injector that requires power cabling to each port, fusing,
> and a rats nest of ethernet cables seems so 2006, do you guys really see it
> that way?
>
>
>
> Yes I know about netonix, but how are they the first to market, it's
> 2015!???
>
>
>

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