Thanks, 
A doctor or pharmacy will throw you out the door if they are only getting 98% 
of their faxes through.  

The issue I am arguing will have to do with whether or not SIP/VOIP via ATA is 
equivalent to PSTN POTS and therefore should be eligible for USF support in the 
rural areas.  This has to do with making the CAF funding portable to WISPS.  I 
think that all WISPS should be able to get USF if they are providing the 
service.  

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:08 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies

Ok, you might not like me after this ... :)

see answers below:-

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 


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  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:10:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies


  Oh, yeah, Elevator Alarms too...
You mean Elevator Help call Lines.... (these are nothing more than auto 
dialers).. They work fine with VOIP ATA, they don't care what type of phone 
line you have.
  From:Chuck McCown
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:08 PM
  To:[email protected]
  Subject: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies
  I am compiling a list of sip/voip issues I have run into over the years.  I 
am going to get beaten up by some bureaucrats tomorrow morning and I want to 
have a list to defuse them before the oral part of the proceedings start.
  I am going to say that ATA/SIP/VOIP is not suitable for the following:

  Fax Machines (don’t even get me started on this, tried to do a doctor’s 
office and pharmacy once....)
Now Approaching 95% to 98% full functionality....Bulk of the issues tend to be 
with remote fax machines have error correction turned on....
  TDD  The teminal that deaf people use.  Does anyone know if a TDD will work 
on a garden variety ATA?  I don’t have one I can test with.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=34404
  Dial up modems....
Yes and no.... it is a bit backwards to talk about modems on a voip line.. but 
the issue is not the modem not working, but more of the modem not  working at a 
high transmission rate over the voip line.
  Fire Alarm control panels (the monitoring companies refuse to even hook it up 
if you tell them it is VOIP).
This is a regulatory issue (Liability related) and not a technical one per say.
  Burglar Alarms .... ditto
Not really a technical issue.. but a regulatory and liability related. 
  I wonder about heart monitors that you wear and have the results phoned in.
Have not seen these...
  Dial phones.  I have never tried to use a pulse dial phone on an ATA/SIP 
unit.  I wonder if it would work. 
  Any others?

Ok you got me... BTW if you find someone with the Old original Graham phone, 
please let me know I would be interested in buying one..


About the only viable argument one can make is that VOIP is less reliable than 
a POTS phone line......(within a very specific context, e.g. similar to cell 
phones not being as reliable as pots lines...)

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