Many ranchers and farmers around here would just as much shoot them down if they are on their property. On Aug 17, 2015 3:59 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would > need permission to fly these things over private property, since they have > to be below 500' - but I base this all on 5 minutes spent on Google, so I'm > likely as not wrong. > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Real planes have to maintain a 500 foot separation from vehicles, >> buildings and people unless taking off or landing. >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 3:45 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >> >> What rules apply to traditional RC planes, real planes? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42:11 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >> >> I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without >> permission, it's pretty much trespassing, isn't it? >> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> I can only assume it is. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 1:04:44 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>> >>> I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your >>> property... >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. At 2.4ghz the >>>> operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can shoot >>>> him ask him to leave your property >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/17/2015 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies. >>>> >>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>> >>>> You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they >>>> lose WiFi contact. Unless you deauth the pilot’s WiFi and take control of >>>> the drone. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 12:53 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>> >>>> OK, but specifically..... >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>> >>>> Part15 >>>> >>>> On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls? >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>> >>>> >>>> No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a >>>> scientific point of view. I know I have enough stuff in batcave to make >>>> one. Simple jammer is to connect several APs with 40 or 80Mhz channels and >>>> cause intentional loop back. Or video transmitter with larger antenna. I >>>> have done both as demonstration to Physics class students when I worked at >>>> Tornillo ISD to talk about Faraday cage and RF signal behavior. >>>> On Aug 17, 2015 11:16 AM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are those legal? >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers >>>>>> from nearby farm flying it over his families pool. Going to try to >>>>>> make >>>>>> it drop on his property or Rio Grande. Told him to call me when he gets >>>>>> it. Lots of idiots with drones out there >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 17, 2015 10:57 AM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>> bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The particular fires are in southern BC along the US/Canada border >>>>>> from Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area. >>>>>> >>>>>> We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring >>>>>> WISP now. It's not a lot, but it's something. Another community >>>>>> north of there is completely in the dark due to the fires to the >>>>>> south... no phone lines, no power, not even cell. Logistically, >>>>>> there's nothing we can do for this community right now either. >>>>>> Reports indicate the power company is setting up a generator. >>>>>> >>>>>> 30 homes were lost in Rock Creek so far, and then there's an >>>>>> effin' idiot flying a drone which has caused the air support for >>>>>> the fire to be grounded yesterday. Now *THERE* is someone I hope >>>>>> the black suits find... >>>>>> >>>>>> -Steve D >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM, D. Ryan Spott <rsp...@ngc457.com >>>>>> <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Where are you at Steve? >>>>>> >>>>>> ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc >>>>>> broadband | telco | colo | communities >>>>>> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 >>>>>> 425-939-0047 <tel:425-939-0047> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:52, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We had a bad situation this week where wildfire took out our >>>>>>> upstream's fiber in one valley which we relay wirelessly over >>>>>>> to another valley. We had calls from people angry that we >>>>>>> weren't driving through the roadblocks to fix it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Steve D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof < >>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com >>>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last row are me during a thunderstorm. >>>>>>> *From:* D. Ryan Spott <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:07 PM >>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; >>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> >>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is >>>>>>> down... >>>>>>> Normally these comics are just humor. The 'complain to >>>>>>> your local congressman' is what got me to send it to this >>>>>>> group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <eijjfgai.png> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc >>>>>>> broadband | telco | colo | communities >>>>>>> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 >>>>>>> 425-939-0047 <tel:425-939-0047> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
