Well, at this point, I fall far more into that latter category than the former, but I agree. It’s hard to hire someone who has no work or legal experience beyond what they got during summers in law school and undergrad. If you’ve never been in the real world before, it takes a few years to figure your ass from your elbow, legally speaking, even if you clerk like I did.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard A new lawyer is like someone with a CCNA. Doesn’t really mean much. I had to deal with one that was dumb as a box of rocks. She interned for free at some kind of immigration clinic for a few months in Florida as her sole experience prior to being hired as corporate counsel (not by me). That was a disaster. I want an old lawyer that has clerked for judges, perhaps been a judge or prosecutor, worked for large firms and been a solo practitioner. Someone that has been around and seen all the ways things and people can go sideways. That is unless I am looking for a specialty lawyer. Then my spec changes. From: Hass, Douglas A.<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:33 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Note that this op-ed was written by someone who is hawking a book called “The Lawyer Bubble: A Profession in Crisis.” It omits two important points: 1) Your student loan debt could be $50 million and it wouldn’t matter. Student loan repayments are based on a (very low) percentage of a small part of your income (less than your AGI), not the total debt. The federal student loan program is a different issue and it isn’t unique to law schools. 2) Nobody forces students to go to law school. It’s voluntary. The research is out there. There’s still no law against being stupid and wasteful with your money and going to a crappy law/undergrad/medical/technical school. Doug From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard They need a backup career since law schools are cranking out more graduates than there are jobs. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/too-many-law-students-too-few-legal-jobs.html From: Mike Hammett<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:02 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard How much can you really believe networking advice from an attorney? ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Douglas A. Hass" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:59:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Back to your original question, though—you would have to renumber if you’re already using a /24 on an interface and now want to carve that particular /24 up in /29s. But if you’re using private IP space, why limit yourself to /29s everywhere? Particularly if each site would have a site number, you could easily do: Site 33: 10.100.33.0/24 (.1 local radio, .2 local router, .101 remote radio, .102 remote router) Site 34: 10.100.34.0/24 (.1 local radio, .2 local router, .101 remote radio, .102 remote router) And so on… Leave yourself plenty of room and route bigger subnets. The site numbering idea might end up a little confusing, though, since “Site 33” is really TWO physical sites, and “Site 34” in my example above is TWO physical sites, one of which you’ve already called part of Site 33. Doug From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Mike basically rob haas was helping me out on this he sent me an little cheat sheet like this: a /29 – 255.255.255.248 is what I use on the backhauls Each Site is assign a site number – say 33 Every site is assigned a /24 for management with my IP scheme of 10.100.site.X The first backhauls would fall into 10.100.33.0/29 so: 10.100.33.1 – Local radio 10.100.33.2 – Local Router 10.100.33.3 – Remote Radio 10.100.33.4 – Remote Router The next backhaul would be out of 10.100.33.8/29 so: 10.100.33.9 – Local Radio 10.100.33.10 – Local Router 10.100.33.11 – Remote Radio 10.100.33.12 – Remote Router basically I want break down the ip's down for backhauls. Tim ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: 08/26/15 01:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Can you tell us the bigger picture of what's going on so we can help better? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:09:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard I was told to take that /24 and break it down to /29. But I didn't see an way to make work without readdressing whole subnet. Tim -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: 2015/08/26 18:59:54 I did not, no. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:58:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Did you mean a /29 on eth1? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Aug 26, 2015 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: You can't have overlapping subnets. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:52:43 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Hi guys I am having bit of an issue getting /29 to work in routerboard. What I am looking to do is put 172.16.2.x/29 on ether2 but I already have 172.16.2.1/24on ether1. So I don't know what I am missing here. Douglas A. 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