Well Steve was pretty vague on this.


Here is a good example.  When SAF moved into both of their locations in Denver 
I did all of the structured cabling work.  Clearly outside my job description, 
and I did it on my own time (well as an exempt employee, not sure that really 
exists :-).  Company paid me a bonus, and they paid less than a contractor 
coming in and doing the work.  Win-win for everyone.



Of course Steve said the work would be done during normal hours.  But once 
again, if you show your employees that if they go above and beyond and you will 
reward that (say getting a degree or learning new skills) that isn’t a bad 
thing overall.  Makes your employees want to grow with your company – not get a 
degree and go seek higher pay somewhere else.



Maybe if the work will be useful long term, just add the work to the employees 
normal course of work and give them a raise.



Thank you,



Daniel White

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:51 AM
To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee



Wow. Massive can of worms opened. With the current attitude of most employees I 
think it won't be long before the employee believes his $10 an hour is more 
like a retainer to show up and be available to bill you $50 an hour for 
anything he does. I think I would fire him and contract him for $50 when I 
needed him. You might be surprised how seldom that is, and so would he.



On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works a 40 
on your clock how would you handle subcontracting his services on your clock? 
Just for easy numbers, say he's a ten dollar employee, but he bills at fifty. 
You need his services during business hours. You need to bill for it.  Aside 
from the obvious separation issues, is this really all that complicated if you 
have an attendance policy this would interfere with?  If he's on your dime as 
an employee, but also billing his contracted rate, say you're ok with the 
double dipping, where does the liability for the service lay? From the 
customers perspective, I assume it's simply on the boss. But at the end of the 
day, how would you handle, or not handle that, concessions to attendance? How 
do you deal with the other employees, or is it any of their concern? As a 
subcontractor, I assume you can make it sort of the contract that 'll work is 
represented as the employer







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