Agreed.. Hopefully this new stuff will be better. Maybe not.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > wrote: > > camium isn't known for their centralized management of anything being a good > investment > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: >> .. again, no comments about the Cambium cnPilot stuff? Even from WISPs that >> primarily use Cambium gear? >> >> Sounds like a decent feature set; PoE, ATA, centralized management, dual >> band, etc. Haven't seen any in action, but at least it sounds promising. >> >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've had the Netgear 3700 series completely blow out the 2.4GHz band for 60 >>> seconds every 5 minutes, two different ones. Not sure of the exact model, >>> been a little while since I fooled with one. >>> >>> MT assured us on the forum that they are seeking UNII certifications. I'm >>> not banking on it and buying a ton of their hardware based on a promise, >>> but I'm keeping a few on hand for specific shots. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Ken Hohhof >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >>> >>> If a customer insists on a recommendation, I say every router you can buy >>> in the store has problems, but the least problematic seems to be Netgear as >>> long as you get at least a 3000 series. I have seen a high field failure >>> rate on the WNR2000, and they can die a slow lingering flakey death rather >>> than just falling over dead. Probably a WNDR3700 if you want gigabit and >>> 3400 if you don’t. Some customers get to the store and get a 4500 because >>> it’s on sale or $10 more. I like having gigabit ports but many customers >>> these days don’t have a single wired device. The Netgear routers come with >>> the WiFi already secured, they can be set to wireless access point mode, >>> and they have a lifetime warranty (but who is going to go through the >>> trouble). On the downside some laptops with Intel 802.11ac WiFi refuse to >>> play nice with the Netgears, and the PPPoE default has to be changed from >>> dial on demand. >>> >>> I will no longer sell routers to customers, many years of bad experiences. >>> But I will lease a managed Mikrotik (a nice one – typically a RB951G-2HnD >>> or RB2011) for $5/month including free replacement. I won’t sell a >>> Mikrotik to a customer for them to manage unless the customer is an IT >>> professional. >>> >>> This does mean I don’t have a dual band (much less 802.11ac) managed router >>> solution. Given our rural customer base, the 2.4 only WiFi usually works >>> out better than dual band. Occasionally I wish for dual band so we could >>> segregate some weak WiFi clients (like Dropcams) onto their own band. >>> Mikrotik doesn’t seem to want to deal with getting equipment FCC approved >>> in 5 GHz. >>> >>> Some of the routers customers have bought that have been problematic: >>> Cradlepoint, Securifi, Amped Wireless (at least the range extenders). >>> >>> >>> From: Brett A Mansfield >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:30 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? >>> >>> I've had very bad luck with Belkin, D-Link, Asus (the worst), linksys, and >>> low end netgear. I've had great success with the higher end netgear and the >>> 3rd through 5th gen Apple AirPort Extreme. Prior to the 3rd gen and the 6th >>> gen (latest) airports are junk. So I'm with you, pretty much every consumer >>> grade router is trash now. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days? >>>> >>>> I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality >>>> seems to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block >>>> specific outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc... > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
