Our regulatory friends have created a situation where even a skilled professional installer or microwave network engineer will have a hard time guaranteeing an installation is compliant. We are probably going to be dependent on the firmware. Not sure if that would be a defense against a fine.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] current 5ghz chart so how trustworthy is new hardware and the updated firmwares from UBNT and cambium to be compliant as long as I have the real antenna gain in? I don't ever foresee the fcc tooling around my network, but Ive worked hard to get compliant, and I'm treating everything as if it falls under the new rules. My chart may have been a vendors limits, its just what I was going by. I do know the 5.6.2 firmware from ubnt would alow me to go above what the chart said On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]> wrote: Yes the rules are the same for all but with their current hardware limitations the different products have to use different power levels to still meet the OOBE requirements. -Ty On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: Limiting factor is OOBE more than EIRP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 14, 2015 2:13 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote: So the EIRP limits from the FCC differ per manufacturer? I thought they were the same across the board On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: Any generic chart isn't going to be particularly accurate now, since every radio is a bit different under the new rules - especially at the band edges. You pretty much just have to follow what the firmware lets you do. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> wrote: I had a chart, I dont know where its at, it went away when I went to windows 10. Just showed EIRP by channel/size accounting for band edges On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: If you’re talking equipment certified under the new FCC rules, there is no simple answer. It depends on the radio and may be different at every frequency even within the same band. So you need to check the firmware or a path calculator tool from the particular manufacturer, unless you are able to decipher the FCC equipment authorization filing. If you’re talking equipment grandfathered under the old rules, I believe it’s still +36 dBm in 5725-5850 for APs, and +30 dBm in DFS bands (less if channel is smaller than 20 MHz). If you want to know 5150-5250, that wasn’t even available under the old rules. I could be wrong, but that’s my understanding. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] current 5ghz chart is there a current printable chart online I can see for printing as reference for EIRP rules -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
