BBC is good.  Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack spin.  
I listen to NPR continually.

Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily due to 
guns and the abortion issue.

Fox news is like eating a whole bag of halloween candy.  After watching fox I 
have to watch some Rachael Maddow to be able to drive straight again. 
(In reality, I avoid TV news.  Radio and Google News is were most of my 
disinformation comes from).

I don’t like apologists, religious or otherwise.  I like the best truths I can 
find.  
I really hate partisan politics.  Blood sport all based on pride and self 
aggrandizement.  Does nothing for the people.  

From: Glen Waldrop 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 7:20 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that.

Obama is a jackass.

Fox news is far from perfect.

As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers dumb 
though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they are the 
least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs 100%). Pretty much all of the 
rest of them are brown nosing the left so bad I can't see how they haven't 
suffocated themselves.

When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrick Leary 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

  The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.

   

  Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people blinded by 
partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of the pieces back 
together, but the glass still won’t hold water so it must be his fault. 
Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.

   

  …Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the Right seem 
to forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS SAID THE ONLY WAY WE 
COULD KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM 
SUBJECT TO LIABILITY AND PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the pond wanted 
that, from the DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers either are too dumb 
to know this or intentionally pretend that was not the reality, in order to 
take yet another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school insult. It’s just way more 
satisfying or simpler for their juvenile world view to believe “it’s Obama’s 
fault!” What, are you 10 years old?

   

  
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0

   

  People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish partisan 
memes.

   

  Patrick

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

   

  We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.  

   

  And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop that 
war.  And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have learned 
which could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle East including 
ISIS.  Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard.  Imagine the 
influence a multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would have had on the 
region.

   

  Rory

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

   

  Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale bombing like 
WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these conflicts, last so 
long. 
  The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those making the 
decisions, to bring it to an end.

  But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been going on 
for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of war again. 
There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been drawn into the 
middle East quagmire.

  The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a couple 
decades.

   

  On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

    The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians.   How do 
you kill them without taking out everyone else.  That is the problem we have 
had all along.  Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the 
most dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow wholesale bombing 
like Nixon did in Vietnam.  

     

    We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do this 
with when we got the local civilians to act as translators and informants and 
abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them the doctor in 
Pakistan.  Even he is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody 
trusts us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally. 

     

    Rory

     

    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
    Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
    To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>


    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

     

    as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking lot 
out of them...




    Jaime Solorza

    Wireless Systems Architect

    915-861-1390

     

    On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

      The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will unite 
to rub them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.  

       

      From: Jaime Solorza 

      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM

      To: Animal Farm 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

       

      Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a tragedy.. It is beyond 
barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil. 

      Jaime Solorza

      On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

         

        Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux 
qui sont touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric .



        Faisal Imtiaz

        Snappy Internet & Telecom
        7266 SW 48 Street
        Miami, FL 33155
        Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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          From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
          To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>, "Telrad List" 
<[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected]
          Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
          Subject: [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

          Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.

           

          Patrick Leary

          Telrad





          
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