I vote Chuck for president.

On 11/16/2015 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
BBC is good. Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack spin.
I listen to NPR continually.
Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily due to guns and the abortion issue. Fox news is like eating a whole bag of halloween candy. After watching fox I have to watch some Rachael Maddow to be able to drive straight again. (In reality, I avoid TV news. Radio and Google News is were most of my disinformation comes from). I don’t like apologists, religious or otherwise. I like the best truths I can find. I really hate partisan politics. Blood sport all based on pride and self aggrandizement. Does nothing for the people.
*From:* Glen Waldrop <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 7:20 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that.

Obama is a jackass.

Fox news is far from perfect.

As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers dumb though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they are the least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs 100%). Pretty much all of the rest of them are brown nosing the left so bad I can't see how they haven't suffocated themselves.

When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Patrick Leary <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
    français

    The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.

    Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people
    blinded by partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of
    the pieces back together, but the glass still won’t hold water so
    it must be his fault. Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.

    …Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the
    Right seem to forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS
    SAID THE ONLY WAY WE COULD KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO
    REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM SUBJECT TO LIABILITY AND
    PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the pond wanted that, from the
    DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers either are too dumb to
    know this or intentionally pretend that was not the reality, in
    order to take yet another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school
    insult. It’s just way more satisfying or simpler for their
    juvenile world view to believe “it’s Obama’s fault!” What, are you
    10 years old?

    
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0

    People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish
    partisan memes.

    Patrick

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
    français

    We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.

    And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to
    stop that war.  And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama
    should have learned which could have prevented much of what
    happened in the Middle East including ISIS.  Apparently they
    didn’t teach history to at Harvard.  Imagine the influence a
    multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would have had on the
    region.

    Rory

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
    français

    Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale
    bombing like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of
    these conflicts, last so long.
    The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those
    making the decisions, to bring it to an end.

    But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been
    been going on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect
    to be out of war again. There may be a lull, but I think the
    entire world has been drawn into the middle East quagmire.

    The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a
    couple decades.

    On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        The problem is that they are basically imbedded with
        civilians.   How do you kill them without taking out everyone
        else.  That is the problem we have had all along. Door-to-door
        warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the most
        dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow
        wholesale bombing like Nixon did in Vietnam.

        We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need
        to do this with when we got the local civilians to act as
        translators and informants and abandoned them after the war,
        the highest profile of them the doctor in Pakistan.  Even he
        is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody trusts
        us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally.

        Rory

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
        *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
        *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>


        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos
        amis français

        as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a
        parking lot out of them...


        Jaime Solorza

        Wireless Systems Architect

        915-861-1390

        On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the
            world will unite to rub them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.

            *From:*Jaime Solorza <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Sent:*Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM

            *To:*Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour
            nos amis français

            Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a
            tragedy.. It is beyond barbaric..its evil for the sake of
            evil.

            Jaime Solorza

            On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières
                pour tous ceux qui sont touchés par cette Sensless
                actes brabaric .



                Faisal Imtiaz

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                    *From: *"Patrick Leary" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Telrad List"
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>,
                    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
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                    *Sent: *Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
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                    amis français

                    Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.

                    Patrick Leary

                    Telrad





                    
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