That’s be nice. Mormons value education, ethics, and are practical people, so 
if they did get preferential treatment, at least I’m confident as a taxpayer 
I’d be supporting mostly sane people...

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Aren't Mormons an oppressed minority?
On 11/16/2015 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
If “I identify as a black woman” can I get some of this?

From: Lewis Bergman<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM
To: Animal Farm<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Jaime,
That screwed up mess of contracting is 100% due to the set asides the US 
government uses to assure they spend more money. Oh yea, they spend more with 
minorities, but just more money would make them happy I think. I would be 
shocked if that wasn't awarded though the SEWP V contract. Not a completely bad 
deal but I think it would be cheaper just to fly over and throw money out the 
window.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
BBC CCTV and Univision news offer a different slant on things.....but  very few 
programs are 100% not biased.  I prefer NPR for daily drive....I only watch FOX 
to get idea what my two extreme buddies watch but only for seconds at a time....
anyways  Hi Ho Hi Ho off to work I go for a Native American company from Alaska 
installing two way radios for a federal contractor working on a federal 
location in El Paso with a team from another native American nationfrom Dakota 
area and Filipino team ...only in America....

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390<tel:915-861-1390>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Glen Waldrop 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that.

Obama is a jackass.

Fox news is far from perfect.

As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers dumb 
though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they are the 
least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs 100%). Pretty much all of the 
rest of them are brown nosing the left so bad I can't see how they haven't 
suffocated themselves.

When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.


----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Leary<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.

Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people blinded by 
partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of the pieces back 
together, but the glass still won’t hold water so it must be his fault. 
Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.

…Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the Right seem to 
forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS SAID THE ONLY WAY WE COULD 
KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM SUBJECT 
TO LIABILITY AND PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the pond wanted that, from 
the DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers either are too dumb to know 
this or intentionally pretend that was not the reality, in order to take yet 
another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school insult. It’s just way more satisfying 
or simpler for their juvenile world view to believe “it’s Obama’s fault!” What, 
are you 10 years old?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0

People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish partisan memes.

Patrick

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.

And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop that war.  
And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have learned which 
could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle East including ISIS.  
Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard.  Imagine the influence a 
multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would have had on the region.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français


Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale bombing like 
WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these conflicts, last so long.
The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those making the 
decisions, to bring it to an end.

But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been going on 
for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of war again. 
There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been drawn into the 
middle East quagmire.

The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a couple 
decades.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians.   How do you 
kill them without taking out everyone else.  That is the problem we have had 
all along.  Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the most 
dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow wholesale bombing like 
Nixon did in Vietnam.

We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do this with 
when we got the local civilians to act as translators and informants and 
abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them the doctor in 
Pakistan.  Even he is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody 
trusts us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Animal Farm <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking lot out 
of them...

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390<tel:915-861-1390>

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will unite to rub 
them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.

From: Jaime Solorza<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Animal Farm<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français


Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a tragedy.. It is beyond 
barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil.

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux qui sont 
touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric .



Faisal Imtiaz

Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
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From: "Patrick Leary" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"Telrad List" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.

Patrick Leary
Telrad




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