Yeah, I realize that Comcast has the capability. The thing is, they don't provide service to about 40% of the county. That doesn't stop them from claiming that they do though. They claim 1Gbps at my house and the entire neighborhood was never wired for cable. Census blocks blah blah, but WISPs have always been expected to provide a more accurate map. The Utah Broadband Mapping program director said it was "too difficult" for them to provide an accurate map. I would think that having physical lines in the ground would be much easier to map than RF propagation maps....but what do I know? Hey, on the bright side, if they have 1Gbps on the mountaintop then I guess that means they will never get funding for rural development.
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: > For the last round of mapping Comcast reported the ability to deliver > download of 100 meg up to 1 gig, with DOCSIS 3.1 this is very possible. > > > > For Illinois if you want to see a listing of who is serving a spot on the > map you can still use this site > http://www.broadbandillinois.org/maps/index.html#find-me > > > > You can search by address or coordinates, it will take a while to run the > query bet then you will get the listing of carriers, on the right you can > click on “see expanded results and you will see a map with that particular > block highlighted along with the results. > > > > Also you can download GeoPDF maps for each carrier in the state from this > page http://www.broadbandillinois.org/maps/Carrier-Maps.html, just above > all the carrier listings there is a link to download the GeoPDF plugin for > adobe which gives you a lot of features and layer control of these PDF maps. > > > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tyler Treat > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:01 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS > > > > Well Chatham is I think around 10k population. Probably not the same > census block. Cwlp is the Springfield Municipal power/water/electric that > also happens to have fiber. > > They've got fiber into Springnet/EOS's data center on the north side of > town, but that's as far south as it goes afaik. > > Not saying Brian's assessment is wrong, but it will be eye opening if the > mapping is accurate to coverage for that particular situation. > > ___________________________ > > Mangled by my iPhone. > > ___________________________ > > > > Tyler Treat > > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. > > > > [email protected] > > ___________________________ > > > > > On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Using the census block method was as close as we were going to get to the > carrier disclosing their network capabilities without actually disclosing > their full plant details. It’s not perfect but it is a whole lot better > than nothing. The method and the national broadband map did so much to > allow the WISP industry to play a defensive game in Washington with regards > to USF and the new CAF rules. If it were not for the mapping program so > many WISP’s would have been overbuilt by USF/CAF funded networks where they > had already built adequate unsubsidized systems. WISPA did a lot of > fighting in DC on the industry behalf and these maps/data were a huge part > of being able to prove where these funds should not go. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:57 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS > > > > Like Brian Webster explained earlier: If they service a road touching > that census block, then then entire census block is "covered". That's even > if it includes uninhabited mountaintop peaks. > > It is not particularly accurate, but I'm sure they had their reasons for > doing it that way. > > > On 11/28/2015 7:59 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > Comcast claims the same thing for the entire state of Utah...including on > mountaintop peaks. > > > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Treat <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yeah I'm not sure how CWLP claims gigabit in the entirety of Chatham. > > ___________________________ > > Mangled by my iPhone. > > ___________________________ > > Tyler Treat > > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. > > [email protected] > > ___________________________ > > > > > On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jason McKemie < > [email protected]> wrote: > > These maps seem pretty inaccurate in my area. Specifically the DSL and > fiber coverage. It doesn't even show my fiber network, but lists one where > one does not exist. Also, it shows DSL reaching far beyond where it is > offered. > > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> > wrote: > > www.broadbandmap.gov > > At the top of the map you can turn different technologies on and off. The > underlying map is not the greatest for visual references once zoomed in but > it should save you a lot of work. > > http://broadbandnow.com/Florida analysis of the state > > https://www.fcc.gov/maps/connect-compete-home-broadband-coverage-map this > map from the FCC is a little more useable but these are only the carrier > who participate in the connect to compete program. > > > http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/fcc.connect2compete/page.html#10/28.5417/-81.8303 > full screen version of the map above > > http://wireless-isp.info/FL.html A listing of WISP's in Florida, not real > accurate > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS > > The issue is we found the WISP map and where all the coverage is. The > areas we are looking at do not have coverage or anyone nearby really. > However I'm pretty sure they have DSL there. So its a bit of a scouting > party looking for somewhere to start up where things are needed to provide > a service to people or improve service in an area where DSL is really bad. > We also don't want to step on anyone's toes and respect others territory. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Treat" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:48:48 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS > > Sign me up. What I'd give for some sustainable green field areas...... > > ___________________________ > Mangled by my iPhone. > ___________________________ > Tyler Treat > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. > [email protected] > ___________________________ > > > > On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Any Florida WISPS out there? Around the Naples area? Just curious > because we have been looking for a startup area but it looks pretty covered > by Cable/DSL. But so much of it is spread out and treed I imagine its a > difficult gig to get started down there. Any success stories? What sort of > hardware are you using etc? > > > > > > > >
