It appears to me that WISPA may have had a voice in the FCC adjusting its view with respect to subsidies flowing to ILECs but it was a pyrrhic victory. The battle should have been to redirect that money to whatever service provider is providing the service. As it stands now, some service providers may be losing subsidies but none of it getting redirected.
I have said for many years, instead of fighting subsidies for the ILECs, fight for portability for all of the USF support mechanisms. Rise/JAB/Digis is experimentally getting a piece of the pie in some price cap carrier turf but that does not help most of the folks on this list. If I was going to waste time lobbying it would be “give me some of that gravy” instead of “they don’t deserve any gravy”. From: Brian Webster Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS Using the census block method was as close as we were going to get to the carrier disclosing their network capabilities without actually disclosing their full plant details. It’s not perfect but it is a whole lot better than nothing. The method and the national broadband map did so much to allow the WISP industry to play a defensive game in Washington with regards to USF and the new CAF rules. If it were not for the mapping program so many WISP’s would have been overbuilt by USF/CAF funded networks where they had already built adequate unsubsidized systems. WISPA did a lot of fighting in DC on the industry behalf and these maps/data were a huge part of being able to prove where these funds should not go. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS Like Brian Webster explained earlier: If they service a road touching that census block, then then entire census block is "covered". That's even if it includes uninhabited mountaintop peaks. It is not particularly accurate, but I'm sure they had their reasons for doing it that way. On 11/28/2015 7:59 PM, Jeremy wrote: Comcast claims the same thing for the entire state of Utah...including on mountaintop peaks. On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Treat <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah I'm not sure how CWLP claims gigabit in the entirety of Chatham. ___________________________ Mangled by my iPhone. ___________________________ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. [email protected] ___________________________ On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> wrote: These maps seem pretty inaccurate in my area. Specifically the DSL and fiber coverage. It doesn't even show my fiber network, but lists one where one does not exist. Also, it shows DSL reaching far beyond where it is offered. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: www.broadbandmap.gov At the top of the map you can turn different technologies on and off. The underlying map is not the greatest for visual references once zoomed in but it should save you a lot of work. http://broadbandnow.com/Florida analysis of the state https://www.fcc.gov/maps/connect-compete-home-broadband-coverage-map this map from the FCC is a little more useable but these are only the carrier who participate in the connect to compete program. http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/fcc.connect2compete/page.html#10/28.5417/-81.8303 full screen version of the map above http://wireless-isp.info/FL.html A listing of WISP's in Florida, not real accurate Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS The issue is we found the WISP map and where all the coverage is. The areas we are looking at do not have coverage or anyone nearby really. However I'm pretty sure they have DSL there. So its a bit of a scouting party looking for somewhere to start up where things are needed to provide a service to people or improve service in an area where DSL is really bad. We also don't want to step on anyone's toes and respect others territory. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Treat" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:48:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS Sign me up. What I'd give for some sustainable green field areas...... ___________________________ Mangled by my iPhone. ___________________________ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. [email protected] ___________________________ > On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Any Florida WISPS out there? Around the Naples area? Just curious because we have been looking for a startup area but it looks pretty covered by Cable/DSL. But so much of it is spread out and treed I imagine its a difficult gig to get started down there. Any success stories? What sort of hardware are you using etc?
