Well Chatham is I think around 10k population.  Probably not the same census 
block.  Cwlp is the Springfield Municipal power/water/electric that also 
happens to have fiber.
They've got fiber into Springnet/EOS's data center on the north side of town, 
but that's as far south as it goes afaik.
Not saying Brian's assessment is wrong, but it will be eye opening if the 
mapping is accurate to coverage for that particular situation.

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On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Brian Webster 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Using the census block method was as close as we were going to get to the 
carrier disclosing their network capabilities without actually disclosing their 
full plant details. It’s not perfect but it is a whole lot better than nothing. 
The method and the national broadband map did so much to allow the WISP 
industry to play a defensive game in Washington with regards to USF and the new 
CAF rules. If it were not for the mapping program so many WISP’s would have 
been overbuilt by USF/CAF funded networks where they had already built adequate 
unsubsidized systems. WISPA did a lot of fighting in DC on the industry behalf 
and these maps/data were a huge part of being able to prove where these funds 
should not go.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com<http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:57 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

Like Brian Webster explained earlier:  If they service a road touching that 
census block, then then entire census block is "covered".  That's even if it 
includes uninhabited mountaintop peaks.

It is not particularly accurate, but I'm sure they had their reasons for doing 
it that way.

On 11/28/2015 7:59 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Comcast claims the same thing for the entire state of Utah...including on 
mountaintop peaks.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Treat 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure how CWLP claims gigabit in the entirety of Chatham.
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On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
These maps seem pretty inaccurate in my area.  Specifically the DSL and fiber 
coverage.  It doesn't even show my fiber network, but lists one where one does 
not exist.  Also, it shows DSL reaching far beyond where it is offered.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Brian Webster 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
www.broadbandmap.gov<http://www.broadbandmap.gov>

At the top of the map you can turn different technologies on and off. The 
underlying map is not the greatest for visual references once zoomed in but it 
should save you a lot of work.

http://broadbandnow.com/Florida analysis of the state

https://www.fcc.gov/maps/connect-compete-home-broadband-coverage-map this map 
from the FCC is a little more useable but these are only the carrier who 
participate in the connect to compete program.

http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/fcc.connect2compete/page.html#10/28.5417/-81.8303 
full screen version of the map above

http://wireless-isp.info/FL.html A listing of WISP's in Florida, not real 
accurate



Thank You,
Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com<http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

The issue is we found the WISP map and where all the coverage is.  The areas we 
are looking at do not have coverage or anyone nearby really.  However I'm 
pretty sure they have DSL there.  So its a bit of a scouting party looking for 
somewhere to start up where things are needed to provide a service to people or 
improve service in an area where DSL is really bad.  We also don't want to step 
on anyone's toes and respect others territory.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Treat" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:48:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

Sign me up.  What I'd give for some sustainable green field areas......

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> On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Steve 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
> Any Florida WISPS out there?  Around the Naples area?  Just curious because 
> we have been looking for a startup area but it looks pretty covered by 
> Cable/DSL.  But so much of it is spread out and treed I imagine its a 
> difficult gig to get started down there.  Any success stories? What sort of 
> hardware are you using etc?



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