I gave up on LVD.   First, especially on solar, I build a large enough batter 
that it should never get that low.  If it does, I want the system to keep 
working with the hope  that the sun will soon be out.  And you need to keep 
your telemetry running even if the batts are low.  Ended up tripping so few 
times at the 26 or so sites we had them in and when they tripped they never 
came back alive gracefully so I eliminated LVD from the picture.  Just engineer 
it with the right size batts and add generators.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:39 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

There seem to be different opinions on the appropriate cutoff point for LVD 
also.  I recall a 12V Morningstar solar controller had an 11.2V LVD.  On one of 
the common DIN UPS modules it's 10.9V (Traco I think, though I might be 
muddling that with a Meanwell spec sheet in my head). That's roughly speaking 
75% discharge vs 90% discharge.  Either way it affects your run time and you 
ought to plan on it.

Some here have expressed that they would rather buy new batteries than be down, 
so they avoid LVD completely. 




On 12/2/2015 1:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  A good way to avoid confusion is to convert to convert to watt-hours.

  I’m assuming when you say 400Ah, you probably have 12V batteries and are 
adding up the Ah ratings of all the batteries.  Like maybe 4 batteries, each 
12V and 100Ah.  Although there are certainly other common battery voltages like 
2V and 6V.

  So I look at a typical 12V battery rated 100Ah, multiply them and get 1200 
watt-hours.  If you have 4 of them, it’s 4800 watt-hours no matter how you hook 
them up parallel, series, or some combination.  That’s how much energy is 
stored in those batteries when fully charged.

  So in rough numbers, a 500 watt load will drain a ~5000 watt-hour battery 
bank in ~10 hours, assuming you are running the loads directly off the 
batteries, with no conversion loss due to an inverter or DC-DC converter.

  And as someone pointed out, you need to check what depth of discharge the 
100Ah is rated at.  If that’s 100% discharged, the battery life is going to be 
severely degraded.  Also likely you may have a low voltage disconnect (LVD) 
that will disconnect the loads before you get to that point, in order to 
protect the batteries.


  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:05 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

  wrong.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/2/2015 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    If you do 4x 12v 100ah batteries and do 24v it's twice the time as 48v

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    On Dec 2, 2015 1:01 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:

      What voltage?

      bp
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      On 12/2/2015 10:00 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


        How long will 500w load last on 400ah?







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