Oh wow… maybe I am missing something. If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we can’t use reflectors?
Paul From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous. It uses the same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :) On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment. Maybe that's it. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> ________________________________ From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S!!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz version. Much nicer to assemble. Much. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> ________________________________ From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a month ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly wouldn't wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer. Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping... On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200. I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Louis Arsenault <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What is the story with the ePMP line? I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now. Has Cambium stopped production on them? Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180? -- -Louis
